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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The only person who determines if a PhD is wanted is the student themselves.

I would phrase it as "Students who might want to get PhD's have a greater likelihood to matriculate at a SLAC" rather than an institution generates them.

I realize that a student can be moved to pursue a PhD by an excellent undergrad education.  But it's more likely a compounded legacy effect and that the type of person who welcomes high contact academics will become a PhD.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9755046/#:~:text=Nearly%20a%20quarter%20(22.2%25),D.

"faculty are up to 25 times more likely to have a parent with a Ph.D. Moreover, this rate nearly doubles at prestigious universities and is stable across the past 50 years. Our results suggest that the professoriate is, and has remained, accessible disproportionately to the socioeconomically privileged, which is likely to deeply shape their scholarship and their reproduction."[/quote]

The PhD data refutes the earlier claim that Pitt has superior academics. It certainly does not. PhD programs are among the most selective and favor rigorous academic prep. Now, a good argument can be made that so do law and med programs, but there isn’t a central authority publishing undergrad origin for all law or med school graduates the way there is for PhD earners, which is monitored by the NSF. (Grinnell does say they med school acceptance rate is about 66%, couldn’t find an equivalent measure for Pitt.)[/quote]

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