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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How many top swimmers are at NCAP Burke?  You can't break out the swimmers by location.

Makos are at one location so that is a fair number of good swimmers swimming with one another. 
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The Silver I group next year will have about 6 swimmers who have achieved at least one AAAA time and multiple AAA times.

The 13-14 Makos girls and 13-14 NCAP-Burke girls are similar, but Makos has more AAA swimmers simply because it has more swimmers (since it is the only Makos site). The NCAP-Burke Silver 1 group typically only has 10-14 swimmers (3-4 per lane).

We swim summer league with and against NCAP-Burke and Makos swimmers, and this age group (and the 11-12 below) have elite swimmers at both clubs. They all seem nice, as do their parents. [/quote]
We have been at meets with Burke and I do not think there are that many swimmers who have achieved a AAAA time and will be in Silver 1 (which is 13-14 year olds) next season. They have a couple girls and 3-4 boys who will be 15 next year and are excellent (although not all have AAAA times). They do not currently have any 12 year old girls or boys with AAAA times. I know you are pumping up the Burke site but if you’re going to throw out stats at least make sure they are accurate.[/quote]

This is not scientific at all, as I only know the NCAP-Burke swimmers and the Makos girl swimmers with or against whom we have swum in summer (I do data, so I’m familiar with the kids, but I don’t know the Makos boys off hand). When you look at SwimIO for their names, it seems the poster’s statement that 6 swimmers “will have at least one AAAA time” by next Fall is reasonable. I didn’t narrow my search to right now, instead looking at historical data (which allowed me to look at 12 year old times for those who just turned 13).

From my quick glance, NCAP-Burke has a swimmer who will move up by next Fall, but currently has 1 AAAA time, along with two younger 13 yo swimmers who achieved AAAA times two months ago, but then turned 13, plus three swimmers who are 12 but will be 13 next Fall and have close-to AAAA times right now.

Makos girls (I don’t know the boys) are very very strong. Two Makos girls are newly 13 and have (or had at age 12) 9 and 6 AAA times respectively. It is reasonable that these two girls will easily achieve AAAA or better by age 14. Five other 13-14 Makos girls have or had multiple AAA times either at age 12 or at age 14.

Seems to me you just need to see what works best for you. [/quote]
I am not the myswimio guy, I swear, but that site is really good for stuff like this and I love messing around with numbers and stats, so I went down the rabbit hole on this. You can look at myswimio for Makos in general to see which current 13-14 and 15-16 swimmers have AAA/AAAA times and whether they are new to an age group or not. Makos best 13 year old girls are not new 13s (I only looked at the 13s with current A times or better), all of them were 13 at the first meets of this season and all but 1 of them turn 14 either right before or shortly after JOs. But yes, if the OPs swimmer is a girl, that is an extremely strong cohort assuming the top 13-14s all train together.

You can also search by NCAP overall, and that’s a little harder to figure out unless you know who the kids are at a particular site because they don’t have site identifiers (which, if you’re reading my swimio guy, if you are able to group all of NCAP as a whole but still have the site identifiers that would be cool). But there are only 6 girls and 3 boys in the 11-12 group currently who have AAAA times and none of them are from Burke. I’m familiar more with who the Burke girls are, and they did not have any girl that started this season at 12 and hit a AAAA before turning 13. There is 1 boy (there may be more but I know of the 1) and 1 girl from Burke who currently have a decent chance at hitting a AAAA at 12 before aging up to 13 for next season. I’m not saying these kids aren’t incredibly talented but based on the stats it’s a bit of a reach to say that there will be 6 kids in Burke’s Silver 1 group next year (so not including the swimmers currently in the group who will not be there next year) who will have achieved a AAAA as either an 11-12 or 13-14. [/quote]

Point of clarification: There are 13 year olds who will stay in Silver I next year, and there are 12 year olds who will move up to Silver I next year. Not all Silver I swimmers move up next year because many will only be 14 next year. This is why OP needs to arrange time at each club/site with the appropriate coach. We can’t possibly know the number of openings and expected movement even within our own kid’s club.[/quote]
There will always be an opening at any club for a kid who has 13-14 age group AAAs when they are 13. There are no Burke 13 year olds, boys or girls, with any 13-14 AAAs.[/quote]

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