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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This list includes statistics, but schools with the most alumni per capita who go on to earn a Ph.D. in math or statistics:

1. Caltech
2. Harvey Mudd
3. MIT
4. Pomona
5. Swarthmore
6. Princeton
7. Reed
8. University of Chicago
9. Carleton
10. St. Olaf
11. Grinnell
12. Williams
13. Harvard
14. Haverford
15. St. John's
16. Whitman
17. Rice
18. St. John's
19. New College of Florida
20. Wheaton

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs#math[/quote]

That's not the useful data column.

If your want peers who had grad school bound, you want the raw numbers, not the per 
capital numbers.

#19 New College has less than one future math PhD per year. That's quite lonely.

Having peers in your program is more important than having fewer non-peers on the same campus. [/quote]

Agree.   Are math departments that large at any top school that it really makes much of a difference?[/quote]

My kid is at Berkeley and the pure math division is not big because it is a very tough major so it is not difficult to get into classes at all.[/quote]

That’s what I figured.  Top faculty is much more important than per capita
data nonsense. [/quote]
Data nonsense yet reflects where you’re most likely to get a PhD graduating from. PP of course mentioned st Olaf as an outlier, but said nothing of the other lacs on the list- Pomona has 40-60 math majors per semester and 1/3-1/2 are going into PhD programs. That isn’t some minuscule community, and their faculty are fantastic if you’re at all knowledgeable about math faculty- a couple are pretty renowned. Same for Mudd, same for swat, same for Williams. The only time I believe the institution type certainly matters is genius-level rising stars who need to be at Princeton or MIT to not run out of graduate courses to take and will likely end up back at Princeton for graduate instruction.

Most freshmen undergrad are in the “I’ve taken calc 2 and have no idea what proof math even looks like” boat, even at top schools. You have a pretty freakish support system if you know some real analysis (or have heard of it) by 18. [/quote]
40-60 math majors per class* so about 200 majors on their campus alone and that’s not counting the other colleges near by. Around 200 math majors is on trend with most lacs these days.[/quote]

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