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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To capture the greatest number of kids, the top 10% is defined as an "either/or", not as an "and".  So if your kid was 10% on NNAT but not on COGAT, your kid will be in pool.  Or if your kid was top 10% in COGAT but not NNAT, kid is still referred.  Kids that are 10% in both are also captured in this manner.  [/quote]

I don't think this is correct.  I think the pool is 10% of the 2nd grade class for each school.

The central committee is the same, though.  They are supposedly comparing all student packets, in pool and referred, to each other.  It has always been debate whether or not the central committee keeps the school in mind when making their decision.  [/quote]

Top 10% "in 2nd grade" means you're looking at both NNAT and COGAT and not just COGAT.  The Universal Screener language (posted by someone else) clearly notes that both NNAT and COGAT are considered.  NNAT from 1st grade and COGAT for 2nd grade.  The 10% is inclusive of both tests and they use "either/or" for the threshold of top 10%.  That's how it works.[/quote]

The kids who are in pool are automatically properly screened by Central.  The kids who are parent-referred go through a couple of other threshold criteria markers before getting fully screened.  (Not publicly advertised.)  The capacity at the school is absolutely considered, as with any program with the level of popularity that exists with LIV.  That's just planning.  AARTs give off a lot of *talking points* information they don't fully understand.  <-- This is how it works![/quote]

Huh? Where do you get this information, because it flatly contradicts what I've heard over doing this 3 times, with 3 kids admitted, only 1 who was in-pool.

- By "central" do you mean the Central Office or the central screening committee? The AAP Central Office doesn't do the screening. Instead group of 6 teachers from [i]every single elementary school[/i] and some middle schools in FCPS are the "central screening committee" and they do the screening. 4 of them say yes and your kid is in. Less than 4 and your kid is not. The Central Office's role in the central screening committee is training and organization.
- AARTs aren't giving uniformed "talking points." The are integral parts of the central screening committee every year and absolutely know how this process works.
- I have no idea what kind of "other threshhold criteria markers before getting fully screened" would even mean. If you are implying, like it sounds like, that parent referred kids don't get to go before the central selection committee unless they meet some other threshholds, [url=https://www.fcps.edu/academics/advanced-academic-programs-aap/family-resources-advanced-academic-program-aap/screening]FCPS's own website on the screening process[/url] flatly contradicts this. It states "Having a Grade 2 universal screener referral does not mean the student has an advantage or is screened differently." Plus what about school/teacher referred kids?

I think you are making junk up that is patently false to rile people up. Honestly the worst kind of trolling - just being mean for the sake of your own amusement.

Anyone who [i]really[/i] wants to know how the process works can watch FCPS's own presentations on it, if you didn't go when your AART gave the level IV presentation. Very helpful stuff here. https://www.fcps.edu/academics/academic-overview/advanced-academic-programs#presentations-learn-about-advanced-academic-programs-and-services[/quote]

Because everything FCPS puts on its website is patently true!  Ok... since you had 3 kids going through this, you must know how it's run.  Thank you! [/quote]

I provided sources for my statements. You have not. What little birdie told you that parent referred kids had extra hoops to jump through?[/quote]

Kirsten Maloney[/quote]

And who are you, PP, that you have chats with the senior manager of AAP for FCPS?[/quote]

Someone who is well-informed on the AAP process nuances. [/quote]

If FCPS is not actually screening with the central screening committee every single packet (and/or is not preparing a completed packet for every referral pathway), they are open to a whole heckuva lot of lawsuits for lying through their teeth. Which is why I still call troll. The 2020 report you provided didn't actually say what you said is "how it actually worked," it merely provided data on how many kids are screened and what percentage used to come from what referral pathway.[/quote]

Good job!  Now take the next step and align the # screened to the % of referral pathway and you'll find the gap.  That gap is what we are talking about today!  Almost there ...

As for a whole heckuva lot of lawsuits, when we look at it in a "holistic" manner, there is a lot of room left for interpretation. That's why you will always find that term ("talking point") used by every single AART.   No where on their website do they say that every child who applied, either through parent referral or other pathways, are screened.  You're the one making that assumption.  [/quote]

DP. You are a troll. [/quote]

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