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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Penn.

At a lot of top schools, kids arrive having been rock stars at their high school. A lot are immediately prepared to try to run everything in college, too, but it's just not possible when there are so many Type A kids in one place.

Fraternities, sororities, eating clubs, etc., are inherently competitive to get into.

Sometimes parties are hard to get into -- you have to know someone. 
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So it’s a competitiveness in a social context, not academically? Competitive to be friends with the right people kind of thing?[/quote]

Yes. But a “friends with the right people kind of thing” affects access to important clubs, activities, etc, which is how a lot of people get the right jobs, and then move up in the world. For the rest of their lives. So it’s more than who they hang out with on Saturday. If you aren’t an extreme climber, professionally or socially, this doesn’t matter.[/quote]

Is it really that serious though? 
You make it sound like it will dramatically impact the course of your life - if you pick a school that’s socially competitive and you aren’t able to manage the grind and the sharp elbowed-ness and compete?[/quote]

It will dramatically impact your life if you can compete.

Failing to compete will only close doors if you are looking to enter certain doors, and don’t have any other keys. [/quote]

Exactly. Not making those connections won’t leave you worse off than if you hadn’t gone to college, but making them will open doors that even the most prestigious degree can’t. Take Bucknell, for example. It’s a great school, but it’s not HYPMS or WASP in pure academic prestige. However, its alumni network and Wall Street connections rival any of those schools. If you can tap into that, the world is your oyster. And the cool part is that Bucknell’s social scene isn’t as cutthroat as those others schools. Its network of elites is accessible to anyone willing to put in the effort.[/quote]

Hello again Bucknell booster…always makes me wonder if is this an avid alum or if it’s the school who posts constantly in this forum.[/quote]

It has to be the school.  No one thinks about Bucknell this much.[/quote]

Agree. I looked at its CDS.  Very low stats. b students 1100-1300 sats. Why would Wall Street want those kids? [/quote]

Bucknell is test-preferred. Look at the percentage of kids who submit. Way higher than other elite schools. The CDS's that show 1400+ averages are smoke and mirrors once you see that fewer than 20% of applicants submit. If you included the scores from the test-optional set, the average would be no higher than Bucknell's and probably lower. Bucknell students are all-around awesome: academically, socially, the whole package. That's why firms hoover then up on The Street.[/quote]

Backoffice "Street" sure...
Bucknell does not show up on ANYONE's Wall Street Pipeline list. 
even SMU does...[/quote]

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