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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Google is your friend. Start with articles like these, go to the original research and then to the citations:

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/being-a-team-player-why-college-athletes-succeed-in-business

This article is from this year but the research has been available for years. There are more out there. Also plenty of articles simply linking career and sports success.

The research for this particular article shows that team sports players admitted with lower gpas than average outperform peers. (In contrast, individual players of wealthy sports, indicating a wealthy background, only leads to a slight career advantage). [/quote]

Your link is about college sports. The vast majority of kids playing sports in elementary school (this forum) won’t make it that far in their chosen sport.

It’s interesting, but I do wonder if the crop of kids who become collegiate athletes is fundamentally different. Your take away may be overly broad.[/quote]

So find the other ones. Deloitte had one about women leaders and sports. There have been countless studies on sports.

Did you study an instrument? What did you learn? Precision? Perfectionism?

There is a lot of work that does not require precision or perfectionism. It does require knowing how to be a team captain, playing on a team to win, motivating a team, coaching a team. You won’t learn this in science class.[/quote]

Hey, just for the record I want to state that for many kids, playing an instrument is a great way to learn a lot of skills besides precision and perfectionism. Playing in an ensemble or orchestra is absolutely a team activity. You literally have to be aware of every other member of your group at all times, and follow your leader to do your part. These kids work hard to take a piece of music and each contribute their own effort to make a whole.

What I’m saying is that there are a lot of ways to learn the value of teamwork and effort, and it’s OK if some groups prefer one over another! [/quote]

That’s an interesting premise and even mentioned in the working paper as an area to be studied: how do other extracurriculars align with career progression? No one said sports or nothing. I would say there’s a big difference between learning to play a piece perfectly as an ensemble and learning to win and lose as a team, but I have never done a comparison.

Just look at corporate lingo and how much of it is borrowed from sports. The kids who have played have a deep understanding of these concepts.[/quote]

I get what you're saying, but a lot of these guys (and yes, it's mostly guys) are giving Al Bundy, not Tom Brady. It's embarrassing that they still talk like 20-year-old bros. We can pick up team analogies just fine without sports experience, thanks.[/quote]

No one’s saying you have to do it. No one’s saying someone who doesn’t play sports can’t get the analogies. In fact my own kids are dropping their team sports. They’ll understand the analogies fine.

The analogies come from sports because of the similarities between playing a game and playing in business. Harvard shows college athletes have a leg up because of the transferable skills help them play better. There’s a big difference between college athletics and rec soccer. Somewhere in the middle is a group of kids who are also learning to play better. This playing ability transfers to certain careers much better than higher science grades.[/quote]

My own Asian culture is conformist and linear. People in my native country try to rank what is the better and worse approach.

America is a big country. There are many approaches that can lead to success (this is also true of my native country but in a different way). It can be difficult to understand from someone who comes from a rigid, narrow, linear system. There’s no one right way to do things. But there are better and worse outcomes. That can lead to a feeling of insecurity. Don’t let your insecurity influence you too much. Instead, figure out what’s right for your kid. If that’s science, math, engineering and music, regardless of your race, that’s great.

If your kids want to take a different path, maybe try to ask questions and learn. That other part might not be familiar but might be ok.

If your kids don’t, then don’t worry about it.[/quote]

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