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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What is a lower cost club?  I looked into my local NCAP and it was basically the same price after all the registration, fees, extras as the other clubs around- Machine, Marlins, York. Yes, AAC and RMSC are cheaper, but they don’t pay for lanes and are otherwise subsidized by the local governments, so not a fair comparison. [/quote]

NCAP is almost $4,000 for the season for 11-12, correct? Marlins is about $3,000 for a comparable training group. Marlins also has so many more options for training - we don't pay nearly $3,000 at 11-12 because we're only swimming twice a week. Is that even an option with NCAP? Like I said, my kid isn't elite. I don't have a beef with NCAP. I just think it's a jackhammer and most kids just need a regular hammer.[/quote]
[b]I have a high level NCAP 11-12 swimmer and we are paying a little over $4k and my swimmer practices 5-6 days a week.[/b] For the poster that mentioned ASA, we are paying roughly the same as we would at ASA (swimmer would be an NDG swimmer there). I do agree that if you have a swimmer who isn’t fully committed to swim as their primary sport and is only in the water a few days a week it is not worth it if you have the option to join a different club that is less expensive and/or has different practice options where cost is different depending on how many days a week you practice. [/quote]

A high level 11 year old should not be swimming 6 days a week.  Maybe if they have gone through puberty - maybe.  But that is well above the guidelines and asking for injury.

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Couldn’t agree more, but NCAP is concerned with immediate returns, not long term development [/quote]

It is their business model.  Points and burnout.[/quote]

You are so uninformed.  My 12 year old swims 6 days a week for NCAP.  A lot of dryland focused on core and shoulder mobility and low yardage….It is not the number of days you practice..it is the amount of yardage….

I am willing to bet there are many kids swimming way more yards than my kid who a practicing fewer days a week…and not racing nearly as fast[/quote]

Yardage is a factor. But 6 days a week at age 12 (6th grade) is a lot. Mental burnout is a factor too. Very early to specialize. Most of the good athlete I knew growing up probably played 5 sports in 6th grade. They certainly weren’t doing 1 sport 6 days a week. Being balanced and well rounded as an athlete is better than a healthy baller session to stretch the shoulders. [/quote]
I also grew up in the pre-specialization of youth sports era. Back then the athletic kids just played a different sport each season at a rec level. Unfortunately that just is not the current environment of youth sports. My kid started with swim as most kids do with summer league and they fell in love with the sport. Personally I found swimming a little boring (I’ve come around on it) and I tried to get them to try some other sports with a little more action but they didn’t want to. Once we started down the club path (which we did later than most) and it became apparent my kid had some talent, they got even more invested in the sport. Their best friends are other swimmers, they are together constantly both in and out of the pool, it’s a great group of focused peers. Taking them out of that to be a “more well-rounded” athlete is not the right thing for them. [/quote]

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