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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DS is at a competitive magnet (not TJ). He is a junior and the pressure this year has really been getting to him. Last week, he had a big unit test and was caught cheating. The test was out of 50 points, and he received a zero, so obviously this is going to affect his grade a lot. I agree that he should have gotten a zero, and he also received consequences at home. However, I really don't want him to get a B this semester since he is on track for T10s. I asked him to email the teacher about extra credit and how to raise his grade, but the teacher responded this morning saying they aren't going to allow that. I really have no idea what to do. Should I email the teacher?[/quote] No. The cheating incident should be on his transcript, too. Colleges need to know about his poor character.[/quote] My kids say that prob half the kids are cheating at school in various ways: chatbots, getting tests from friends, just openly cheating during makeup tests because proctor doesn't care, faking data in labs, etc. They're not that clandestine about it. A lot of teachers don't care. So not sure if it's the case for the OP, but the teacher may just be picking on one kid when a number of others could easily have been accused as well. [/quote] Teachers care. The problem is teachers are outnumbered and they have limited resources. I teach 140 students. I am no longer using laptops for any class assessment, primarily because I can’t watch 30 screens at once. So we are back to paper and pencil, and I also change the tests for each period. It takes me an absurd amount of time to prepare this and even more time to grade 140 handwritten tests with written responses. The planning and grading have to happen at home since I have no time during the day to complete either task. Computers make the workload more manageable, which is why many teachers prefer to run their assessments online. It cuts the workload in half, which means teachers can spend more time on their own obligations. They aren’t being lazy. They are protecting their time and work/life balance. [/quote] You are a unicorn so not talking about you. And I know that all teachers are overburdened because many/most kids are not at the the proper grade level. I was saying that most teachers don't care about the cheating since most kids are openly doing it and/or it's easy to prove. I'm just questioning why one kid (who the teacher may not like???) is being singled out when others could probably be easily accused as well.[/quote] I am NOT a unicorn. I sit through so many meetings where my coworkers show their concern for students’ well-being. And no, it isn’t easy to prove cheating. I’ve sat through many uncomfortable conferences with parents, who scream that their child never cheated and never will cheat. I can have proof with me (version histories, the student’s initial admission to cheating) and the parents will still refute it. Frankly, it’s exhausting. I actively watch parents cripple their own children this way. Consequences teach lessons and help students avoid larger consequences in the future, but so many parents want to avoid them altogether. And for what it’s worth, my own child cheated a few years ago. I thanked the teacher for telling me and allowed my child to learn from the experience. [/quote] NP. Everyone should be listening to this PP. If your kid does something wrong and the first reaction is to find ways to try and blame the teacher or other kids, the problem is [b]you[/b] and you are crippling your child in life. Or did you plan to raise Brock Turner or Donald Trump? Because that's the parental attitude that made them who they are - always blaming everyone else.[/quote]
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