Reply to TJ info sessions at MS

Forum Index » Advanced Academic Programs (AAP)

Reply to "TJ info sessions at MS"

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For parents that went to info sessions, at ours when answering a question they said that a student has better chance to get accepted at MIT and Harvard if stay at base school than to compete against all the other TJ kids. Know that is speculated in posts here on DCUM, but I was surprised when it was said by to room of people. Is it a new talking point? I would have thought would just be silent on that and especially to not name any schools. [/quote]

Session we attended was… odd. It seemed more of a don’t apply session. Cannot even fully say why, but felt like our school was a stop they had to but did not want to do. People that were going to apply will still apply, but was still weird.[/quote]

They are trying to dissuade applications from the traditional feeder schools, while increasing the number of applicants from schools who usually send few to no students to TJ.

It’s all about diversity.[/quote]

That sounds more like another paranoid delusion.[/quote]

Wait:

- are you claiming the prior school board did not alter the TJ admissions requirements for diversity reasons?

Because, they altered admissions for racial diversity reasons.    That is not a “paranoid delusion.”  That is a fact.[/quote]

Aside from their public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages.  You have no evidence of that.
Well, there was also the study they commissioned specifically to figure out the best ways to increase racial diversity at TJ.  But aside from those things, you have no evidence.
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVAH!!![/quote]

Evidence, there is!

[img]https://defendinged.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/1-1-1536x864.png[/img]

Like I said, no evidence other than "public statements, their internal emails and personal text messages"
Oh and the study they commissioned to figure out how to get specific racial compositions.
So aside from that evidence, there is NO EVIDENCE AT ALL![/quote]
Other than racial discrimination, there is no discrimination at all![/quote]

I have to agree. The idea there's any racial discrimination is preposterous.  Asian enrollment is currently at a historic high, and the largest beneficiaries of the process change were low-income Asians. Further, admission data shows that all racial cohorts are admitted within a few percent of each other based on the admission-to-application ratio. Selection by law is race-blind, and even the right-leaning SCOTUS wouldn't even take the C4$TJ case.[/quote]

The TJ program is legal and I very much support the 1.5% rule but it is NOT true that Asian enrollment is at an all time it. It is still extremely high both as a percentage of the school and in proportion to Asian students in NOVA but it was slightly higher in the classes before the reform. [/quote]

There are posts on this board that show that it is at a historic high. This was using public data and is indisputable.[/quote]

The asian population is 100 students smaller now than in the year before the change despite the school having over 200 more students.[/quote]

In the fall of 2021, TJ had 1809 students, 1303 of whom were Asian (72%).  This fall TJ has 2111 students, 1278 of whom were Asian (61%).

[b]The goal was to decrease the percentage of Asian students[/b], and the best way to do that was to make it more difficult to get in from the top feeders, which themselves were - and still are - heavily Asian.  
[/quote]

The goal was NOT to decrease the percentage of Asian students. The goal was to [i]increase[/i] the percentage of students coming from disadvantaged economic backgrounds.

It went without saying that there was a strong likelihood that the percentage of Asian students would decrease as a result of the changes, mostly because the explosion in Asian population at TJ from classes of 2010 to 2024 is almost entirely explainable by the mass migration of South Asian families to the Dulles corridor during that same time period. Which happened because you had the combining factors of the tech boom and the worldwide attention placed on TJ from being named America's top high school by USNWR.

Those South Asian families are the single wealthiest demographic subgroup in Northern Virginia, and by a pretty healthy margin. And they were, as a cohort, extremely motivated to send their kids to TJ - no one argues this point.

Now, we can have an argument about whether or not it is a noble endeavor to open access to TJ to students who happened to be born into suboptimal economic circumstances, when it was [i]de facto[/i] closed to them before.

But literally no part of this was EVER about reducing the percentage of Asian students. And yes, I acknowledge that they knew it was going to happen, not that it matters. That's what happens when you face a problem of overrepresentation - eliminating the cause of the overrepresentation will eliminate the overrepresentation. As I've said hundreds of times here, [b]the fact that it impacts you doesn't make it about you[/b], any more than UVA's decision to start admitting women in the 1970's was about men.

And what makes this ever more exhausting is this disingenuous bad-faith attempt at victimhood by folks claiming to represent the "Asian community", as though that's some monolithic thing that exists. To the extent that there are any "victims" here, they are kids who almost uniformly come from very well-off families that will be able to secure internships, go to fantastic colleges (better than they'd get into if they went to TJ), and in most cases probably graduate without any student debt. The delta for these kids between their lives attending or not attending TJ is basically zero.

[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics