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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I suggest you run a Google search feel free to look at the evidence that dyslexics have higher visual/ spatial reasoning, just because one has a Phd does not mean they are good at applying that knowledge or using that knowledge. My Dad has a Phd and they "research" I use that term loosely and write academic papers, sorry but the fact is people who experience and see what is going on will always have more practical knowledge of what is really going on. No disrespect intended, but I have taken my daughter to an educational psychologist she is dyslexic and her visual spatial reasoning is extremely high this is a very common characteristic of people with dyslexia, and if I had the time I would find you the research but since your a Phd I am sure you can find it. I only started posting here because I know what it is like to fight for a child with dyslexia and I want to help as many people as I can. 
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I appreciate your post and the good intentions behind it, truly.  Part of my concern is that while some kids with dyslexia do have enhanced visual/spatial abilities, many do not - and so it can be tough to feel like your kid doesn't have this superpower that others do.

I ran a quick search on Google Scholar and there's a good bit of research in this area.  At a glance, there's a substantial proportion of people with dyslexia who actually have deficits in visual processing, e.g., this one: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/87565640902801882

or this: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010945213802845

I didn't specifically search for spatial reasoning but there's likely something in there, too.  And that doesn't mean that some people with dyslexia don't have superior visual/spatial processing, more that it's a diverse group of folks.

Last but not least, for anyone who's interested, Tim Odegard is a prominent dyslexia researcher and also has dyslexia himself - he hosts a terrific podcast on the science of dyslexia.  He's also spoken against the idea of dyslexia as a gift of some kind.  Just one person's opinion, but it's an informed one.[/quote]
 Maybe not all dyslexics but my daughter who does have dyslexia indeed has very high visual/spatial reasoning per the educational psychologist I took her to which was extremely expensive and also makes sense if you would see her strengths extremely good at geometry and trigonometry yet struggles with basic math, she also has won art tournaments with KCEA and is very good at anything involving building, or anything mechanical. 
I would also like to point out that there is research supporting both are stances on visual/ spatial reasoning. The truth is since they now umbrella dyslexia to almost any child that has issues with reading the research could be off or a kid may be considered dyslexic even if they are not.
 While I will agree memorization of sight words only works up to a certain point my daughter learned to read much better with memorization reading and then latin root words to help decode a word rather then phonics. Also One of the things I meant by visual to go with a word that has none like and is have your child make up and image that represents that word to them that tip came to me via meeting a German man at an educational conference. 
 Dyslexics and children in general have low phonetic awareness it's even worse for dyslexics, less then 20 percent of the English language is phonetic. 
 I do encourage at least a look at books in dyslexic friendly fonts. 
 Dyslexia is frustrating for a child but getting them the right tools and also knowing and encouraging their strengths helps them build self-confidence my daughter would just plow through maze books, visual puzzle books anything where they can show there aptitude and gift. 
 Yes gift for higher visual/ spatial reasoning and the way there brains don't compartmentalize (hence they can get information overload) they are able to make connections where others can't. 
[b] I don't know if my counter part here has ever truly raised or knew a dyslexic child I am curious what your experience is with one since we so vastly disagree?[/b]
 
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I do have a dyslexic child: my 8 year old DS.  We work with him at home, have an IEP, etc.  He’s one person with dyslexia, though, so I don’t know why he alone would be the sole (or even largest) source of my knowledge about dyslexia.

My perspective is informed by a few things: advanced training in clinical psychology and clinical neuroscience, research expertise, reading peer-reviewed studies published in reputable journals, and the knowledge that dyslexia is not a unitary construct, nor are “dyslexics” a single homogenous group.  Sure, *some* people with dyslexia have significant strengths in visual-spatial processing.  Many others do not.  Thus, it’s not accurate to insist that “dyslexics have higher visual/spatial reasoning” because not all of them do.  I also don’t consider Google searches to automatically yield evidence-based information about dyslexia.

This publication, from Annals of Dyslexia and written by Tim Odegard and Madalyn Dye, articulates it well: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38877328/[/quote]

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