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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course it is real.  There is evidence everywhere.

Besides raising boys to respect females as equal, to have and exy the range of feelings (including fear and tears), to seek consent before touching another else’s body for your own gratification , they need time role models who live this way.

That means dads who also care for children and [b]women who contribute to society outside the home,  and contribute to their household financially.[/b][/quote]

Please explain how the rather misogynist sentiment expressed in bold helps dissuade toxic masculinity.[/quote]

Because women are less free to leave controlling abusive men, or refuse them sex, if their spouse is their only way to feed their children or keep a roof over their heads.

Are you familiar with history? With how many women around the world are entirely dependent upon men?

We are better off when we are independent , and perceived as capable of independence/ strength. [/quote]

Choosing to stay home and care for the house and family does not equal being dependent upon men.

Does not dad’s position as a wage earner employee (rather than a business owner) also mean that he is dependent upon (other) men (or sometimes women)?

Like so many, you haven’t thought this through.  If you really want to end toxic masculinity, stop considering men to be the default and women to be the other.[/quote]

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