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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I began carrying pepper spray on my walks with my dog. If your dog is off leash, not being recalled, and running towards my reactive dog, I am pepper spraying it to heck. [/quote]

You're as likely to get yourself/your dog with this approach as you are to make a point to a stupid owner w/ an off-leash dog. Try pet corrector spray, if you want to carry something: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0124G47TW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Or kick them. That's what I do. If your dog is close enough to my boot to get kicked, there's your problem.[/quote]

If you kicked my dog who is not posing a threat to you then I would punch you in the face. You can make up a bunch of rationalizations to justify your actions but that wouldn’t stop me.

If you want a dog to ignore you then you need to ignore the dog. [/quote]

It's not my job to determine whether or not the dog you're not controlling correctly is gonna be a problem. The moment you let your dog in my space, it's a threat. If you keep your dog in your space, we won't have this problem. It's your job to keep your dog safe from my boot. My dog is (usually) friendly, but I'm (usually) not.

And if you touch me, I'll probably unalive you. FAFO.[/quote]

You are pre-planning to kick a harmless dog. In the real world accidents happen and we don’t get to murder or assault people or animals that are not actual threats. Then you threaten to murder me for defending my dog? You are sick. Get help.[/quote]

No, I'll get YOU some help understanding why we have leash laws. Your dog running into my space isn't presumed to be harmless. If you run up into my space, I'm not going to assume you're harmless either. Being in my space without my consent IS A THREAT.

"Defend your dog" by keeping it leashed, under your control, out of my space. [/quote]

No actually that’s just your own twisted rationalization about your tendency towards violence. Dogs run up to people all the time in the real world and the vast majority are harmless. Accidents happen and dogs get loose sometimes. Most of the time kind, well balanced people are able to navigate the situation without violence. I have done so plenty of times myself. Annoying, sure. Rude dog owners, you’re right. Planning to kick a dog just because it’s near you and not trying to bite you is antisocial and dangerous behavior in and of itself. Once you initiate violence in response to a peaceful situation then you are the psychopath.

People like you are far more of a threat to society than an annoying and friendly dog on a hiking trail. Seriously get help to control your violent tendencies.

BTW you don’t get to kill a person just because you feel threatened. You will still go to prison. Can you imagine if every fistfight between two men ended up in homicide? You actually want to live in that kind of world? [/quote]

People wanting to be left the hell alone to mind their business don't have a tendency toward violence.

People who flagrantly disregard the rights and boundaries of others, along with laws and regulations, do.

You started the "violence" the moment you intruded into my day and restricted my peaceable enjoyment of the space immediately surrounding my person in a place I had a legal right to be. You are the violent one. You are the boundary violator.

Quit projecting.[/quote]

That’s just more rationalization that you have invented in your own mind. In the real world human beings have the ability to choose tolerance rather than violence. People do this every day so why can’t you? I mean this thread is full of (rightfully) annoyed people who have had dogs run up to them and yet nobody ever had to kick the dog or murder the human as a result.

You have some sort of chip on your shoulder and are looking to act out your frustration with violence. It makes you feel in control. But you can never be in full control of people let alone animals when you are outside in public. It’s not really that scary though. It’s normal. Maybe try to deal with your fear in a productive way? [/quote]

You know these is not the real issue. Why this post has to go off rails to extremes...

We know animals get off leash from time to time. We all also know those people at parks or in the neighborhood who scoff at leash laws. There is a difference.

I hate dogs off leash but one of my favorite memories was a humorous chase by a dog in my neighborhood who got loose and was living his best life running down our neighborhood street. He was a character and no one was going to kick or harm this dog. Know that most of us understand the difference.

That is very different when, for example, you're walking in a large park in Alexandria and no other humans are around you and you are walking with twin 3 year old when 2 dobermans approach with no owner. You think I'm unnecessarily fearful in that situation? How about when I'm riding on a trail near my neighborhood on bikes with those kids who are now 7 and a pitt bull comes out of nowhere trying to grab one of my kids off of their bike? I actually started reading about what weapons to carry to keep us safe because of these incidents.  [/quote]

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