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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That happened at my spouse's job.  We think they did it on purpose to get the numbers down.[/quote]

This is, in fact, a deliberate strategy. It's a good s ad way to encourage the loafers to go on their way. [/quote]
Except the people who can find other jobs and therefore leave are the high performers.[/quote]

Most workers are not high performers. Most high performers I know are generally willing to go into the office at least 2-3 days a week. The fully remote crowd has more slackers in it[/quote]

High performers want to be in the office, since they know promotion and raises are mostly based on relationships and that is much harder to pull off as a zoom square. [/quote]

No. Strivers want to be in the office for those reasons. There may also be overlap between strivers and high performers, but those are certainly not completely overlapping sets. [/quote]

What exactly is wrong with being a striver? [/quote]

DP, nothing but it's not the same as a high performer. There are strivers who don't perform, and high performers who are happy at their level.

I'll add -- a lot of high performers who are middle aged right now have no problem with relationship building because they came up in the telephone era and they had to maintain relationships over voice phone. I think younger people have a harder time with that.[/quote]

Sure some middle aged sales managers can work the phones with their equally old clients, but it has real limitations. What about when your manager is young enough to see the phone as antiquated. They may be fine with a lot of worth virtual, but the relationship will still be in person only

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/remote-workers-are-losing-out-on-promotions-8219ec63

I can’t imagine a middle aged worker risking ageist layoffs by also becoming a ghost at the office. [/quote]

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