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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's the education system in the country being messed up. High schools supposed to get kids college ready, but they are not doing their job. They give out easy grades, the College board gives out high sat scores and high AP scores. Every one has high stats, and everyone seems happy. When they are in college (any college, state uni or T25), they suddenly found out that they were under prepared. [b]The valedictorian in high school suddenly found out they are getting their first C or D in life. [/b] Mental stress, depression follows. [b]Ivy leagues make it super easy for the students by inflating GPA to the moon. Everyone gets at least a B+. [/b] So they are fine. But state univ are unforgiving with touch curves. Many kids at state univ suffer compared to ivy leagues.[/quote] You definitely did not go to an ivy/T10 nor do your kids. There is no dropping a class that late without a medical reason, same with the state schools. The median on science /math /econ tests is commonly 40-70% correct which is “curved” to a B meaning half of the students get a B- or lower. In some cases the upper level courses might be curved to a B+ which still means HALF the class gets below that. I have friends with kids in premed at WM and Uva: guess what they curve about the same, median is usually a B. Some non-curved writing/analysis courses have the median grade as an A-. Even back in the day the T10/ivies had easier grading distribution in humanities. The volume of reading per week for the elite schools and the depth of analysis required on problem sets is much more difficult than public schools and private schools outside the T50 or so. Talk to professors who have taught at both. Look at syllabi for courses. You have no idea what you are talking about. And I know at least a dozen valedictorians through my kids and their friends at their ivy and none of them have Cs or Ds, though they all had good high schools. Students there do, but it is not correlated to being valedictorian: it depends on the rigor of their high school preparedness [/quote]
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