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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even when they win they are not great. This women's gymnastics team that won, not impressive. So maybe talent is decreasing worldwide in sport. Maybe too much time on phones, not enough at practice.[/quote]

[i]I think something broke your brain.[/i] The US womens' gymnastics team is unquestionably the best in the world with 2 olympic all-around champions who are still somehow at the top of their game 4 and 8 years later. Simone Biles is considered by everyone who matters both inside the sport and out to be the greatest womens gymnast of all time. She has pushed the sport to levels I don't think people previously though possible and the fact that she is still able to compete at this level so far above even the best gymnasts from every other country at 27 is just unheard of. She has Phelps level dominance in the sport.

Put Simone next to any prior gymnastics great and she would absolutely dominate them. She does things no one has ever done before and she does them with perfect execution and power and even is artistically strong. If you don't understand that then you don't understand the sport at all.[/quote]

Is this a Gen Z thing, to insult strangers? I don't get it. It I'd rude but at the same time ineffective. It is like telling me I have green hair. How would you know, and even if I did, why would I care what you think?[/quote]

I'm Gen X and I assumed your brain wasn't working properly because you were arguing that a US womens gymnastics team containing both the greatest womens gymnast of all time (no question) and multiple olympic and world champions is "not great." And tried to argue that if they are winning it must be because all the athletes all over the world are not training hard enough because they are on their phones.

Either your brain broke or your a troll. Or both -- not ruling that out.[/quote]

They are not great, that is the issue. The U.S. team is the best of the mediocrity of world gymnastics. The fact that the U.S. won without artistry, ans will falls, misteps, and mistakes, shows this.

Just because you are really aggressive doesn't make you right.[/quote]

Ok now I get it -- you don't understand the sport. This makes sense now.

The US made almost no mistakes in the team final. The most glaring was Jordan Chiles falling off the beam during her mount. While this was a major error the team is so much better than other teams that it wound up not being a factor at all. Compare this to China who made several major errors that knocked them out of medal contention. The US did clean and error-less gymnastics.

I am guessing you are one of those people who is mainly familiar with womens gymnastics prior to the last 10 years or so and think that the steps and jumps you often see on landings now are evidence of a decline in overall quality. The opposite is true. Today's gymnasts could do the skills of 10+ years ago in their sleep with stuck landing after stuck landing -- it would be very clean and very safe and no particularly exciting. Instead the best gymnasts today are doing skills that no one thought would ever be possible. In fact for the gymnasts of yesteryear who were mostly much younger and not as strong these skills would be impossible or result in career-ending injuries. Todays gymnasts are better athletes -- better trained and more experienced plus physically more solidly built. It helps that we have rid the sport of the people who used to abuse and manipulate they young girls in the sport into eating disorders and unsafe training. The result is that womens gymnastics has "leveled up" and you now see them doing skills that are bigger and harder with more twists and rotations and more blind landings and technical difficulty.

I'm sorry you don't understand this. Genuinely. Because it means that you are watching extraordinary and record-breaking gymnastics and don't even know it. You remember the tiny but miserable young teen girls you saw compete back in the 90s or 00s and think they were "better" because they fit a mental image you had been *sold* about what female gymnast was supposed to be -- delicate and girlish and elegant. Think about this. In what other sport would it be a benefit to look weak and small. It was a messed up approach that held the sport back. Now we see it leaping forward. It's an exciting time and you can't even see it. Sad.[/quote]

Zzz

Still a ‘sport’ that requires judges. Boring.[/quote]

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