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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don’t get the point of travel if you’re playing C. Most C teams are barely (if that) better than rec teams in strong rec programs. [/quote]

We played in the East Coast C Championships and most teams were good—there were some teams that were really, really good.  Plus C teams still generally have skills rec teams don’t- rounding first after a walk, [b]catchers that can throw a player out at 2nd[/b], etc. You don’t need to travel to FL from DC but traveling out of state isn’t uncommon. [/quote]

In one game we were watching, we saw the catcher perfectly block a ball in the dirt and then backpick the runner at 3rd from her knees.  Nobody is doing in that rec. [b] Heck, in rec, that ball isn't blocked and the run scores.[/b]  Here, it turned into an out.[/quote]

I don't know what rec games you were watching, but at least in 10U rec+  plenty of catchers are good blockers, and those would be the better rec catchers (12U and 18U are more variable because it depends on how many girls have already left for travel). Nobody's backpicking from their knees that I've seen in rec, though, but most girls can hold the runner just fine.[/quote]

Okay, maybe a few kids in rec can block.  not typically the balls that are in the dirt inside/outside, but they may be able to drop into blocking postiion.  But nobody is making a backpick from the knees, and by 12u anyone in rec than can block has been scooped up by a travel team.

I'm objecting to a PP that asserted that 12c is basically the same as rec.  And if you observed the last 8 teams at nationals, or a few 12u rec games, you would know how crazy that sounds.  [/quote]

PP here. Sure, the best of C (which should really be challenging themselves more by playing N) but the average C team just does not seem worth it to me. You obviously have a different opinion. [/quote]

You're giving the wrong idea to those new to softball.  C is generally a big step above rec.  It's closer to rec all stars, but that's the best of the best of rec.  My daugter plays on a C team and in a year they've encountered one team that was truly bad, and I heard their two best pitchers were missing that day.  Even on a C team, the players I've seen know where to be at all times, they can make all the necessary throws and some can hit to the outfield.  DO they make every throw and catch and DO they all hit to the outfield? No -- that's closer to B teams.  But they're capable of it.  That's not the case of rec teams, where some of the girls have never played before, or aren't capable of catching balls at 1st, or who strike out all the time.
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Fair enough. My daughter was in a strong rec league and went right to B, but I recognize if you come for a weaker rec program, C ball might be a nice step up. [/quote]

DP. As someone with rec+ players for kids (so we see a bunch of different other rec+ teams), the quality in rec varies so widely between leagues, and even on teams within an individual team. The rec program my kids are in has at points had the kind of high level of play you're talking about, not just for individual kids but for entire house teams.[/quote]

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