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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Got my PhD from Georgia Tech in ChemE but at work, folks only care about if you are from an Ivy, Stanford. I work in Government as a civilian and we spending so much money on DEI and still only Ivy folks get selected. [/quote] Are your colleagues engineers? Do you mean ivy engineers are picked over Georgia Tech? That shocks me only because GT is a top tier engineering school [/quote] With any Tech degree - you need soft skills as well; guess what got kids into Ivy Grad School? With a tech degree the two highest paying jobs start at the people end - Sales Engineering, then consulting, then engineering, ... I went to interviews where they said they prefer Ivy over MIT or Caltech because they find better people skills. I've hired/rejected UVA CS Grads because of people skills. If you are outside Georgia - GT is ranked up there; you probably need an MBA network class or such. You are correct - when you are blindly sending resumes right before graduation then yes - the Ivies matter. After 1-2 years, if you have "Ivy" on your resume then you have a target to hit. The expectation is that you need to perform better than a GMU or VCU kid. The GMU/VCU kid might make lower than you - initially, so you better bring it. [/quote] Not true. I work in consulting and make half of what engineering make. Sales engineering is commission based and could have very bad quarters if no sales.[/quote] It all depends on who can do your job. Where I'm at - we have to take a pay cut to work in Pure Engineering unless you roll in as a Senior Engineer or higher. A lot of these guys don't want to interact with strangers or go to client sites. I had people try to switch and find out they are not qualified for the position that their salary translates to. I can do an Engineer's job it doesn't work the other way. As per Sales Engineers - the base salary is comparable (or they would be consultants) and the commissions get them over. They are not stupid if its not worth the added stress they wont do it. And if you are good at your job then you are way way better-off. I'm talking about driving a Porsche better off. Pure Sales their base salary is higher and the commissions are much higher - I'm talking about: Country Club with Senators rich. These guys usually have an MBA - a few from the ivies where I work at. I did hear the FANG engineers do make like $500K to $1M+ with stock options. I also heard this is not the norm. The ML and Data Science guys are killing it at all positions as a recent trend. [/quote]
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