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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Brown is a top 10 school.  It’s ranked 9.

Dartmouth and Cornell are generally the “lower”. Cornell also is large- 17,000 students vs 7k.[/quote]

Cornell has had a historical track record of admitting international students for many decades. Especially from Asia.  A larger-sized university leads to more potential for international alums.

Many of the US Top 50 are well known in Asia because STEM and R&D go hand in hand and there are more international STEM grad students than the US university system can absorb.

This is the only non-Western ranking I've seen (it's Chinese).  Cornell is 12.  Penn is 14.

https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2023

I think the concept of a lower Ivy has been made up by insecure snobs.  All the schools are different and it's just a sports league.  So if any are really "lower", it should be based on football team performance!

Brown is favored by the occasional European royal.  It seems to be famous enough for them.
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