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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OMG - an additional $4/hour does not equal your proposed 10% reduction in tips per tab. Furthermore, do you think waiters could live comfortably on $10 plus 10%? Try to put yourself in their shoes before you suggest that those of us wealthy enough to eat out regularly should stiff the working class in our high cost area. [/quote]

Idiotic post.

It's not the customer's job to make sure a waiter can live off what they earn AT THEIR JOB.  Take it up with their employer.

10% might be a little low, sure, but the major point being missed is that customers should now reduce their tips propeotionally to the rising base wages.  Those wage hikes are inevitably going to get passed onto consumers in the form of higher menu prices.

When's it stop?  You're seriously going to sit there with a straight face and tell everyone they should still tip 20% when hourly wages for tipped workers goes to $15/h?  How about $20/h? $25/h?

Sorry, but once you start exceeding minimum wage per hour, it is no longer the customer's responsibility to tip anymore. The only reason tipping existed in the first place was because wait staff were paid well below minimum wages per hour. The more that gap closes, the less customers should tip.  Admit it, you can't explain why you should tip restaurant wait staff who may soon be earning $20/h at this rate while you never tip the Amazon delivery guy who also makes $20/h even though they both provide a service.  [/quote]

You really suck as a human being. If you are not going to tip, I hope you get the service you deserve. [/quote]

You are an imbecile.

[b]Do you tip the FedEx guy?
Do you tip the mailman?
Do you tip the driveway repair guy?
Do you tip your roofers?
Do you tip the Amazon delivery guy? 
Do you tip the bagger at the grocery store?
Do you tip the mechanic?
Do you tip your kids' teachers?
Do you tip the nurse at the hospital? [/b]

Just admit US tipping culture makes no sense.  All of those jobs above provide service, yet none of them regularly get or expect tips.  Restaurant staff are not something special. Once they start exceeding minimum wages, why is there any tipping?  The only reason tipping existed for wait staff was because they were paid far below minimum wage.  Once laws go into place forcing businesses to pay them minimum wage, customers are no logner required or expected to tip.

Again, take liveable wage issues up with employers.  It is never a customer's responsibility to ensure an employee is paid enough. It is utterly moronic to think a customer should be the ones responsible for wages.  Rising minimum wages will get reflected in menu prices.  Customers should therefore tip less since the money is going to pay increased base wages. It's really simple logic you seem to have a hard time understanding.

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No, because all those people making a LIVING wage. Restaurant workers, like waiters, do not. [/quote]

I didn't force you to take a job as a server.  Wages are between the employer and employee.  If the server isn't making a living wage at their job, then they should work someplace where they can make a living wage.  I pay the menu prices.  As the tipped wage increases, I expect to be able to reduce the amount of tip I leave.  Someday I would hope that the tipped wage concept is a thing of the past.  Just charge me the appropriate amount.  [b]I don't tip the guy at Home Depot for taking me through the store to find the part I'm looking for---it's his job.  A servers job is to take your order and bring you your food[/b].  [/quote]
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No one is tipping the Gap worker folding clothes. Because it's their job. Why do we tip this specific profession? Because their boss won't compensate them appropriately? Why did you take a job that doesn't pay you a living wage? [/quote]

Exactly. I think of times of be gone to a bookstore and a worker has spent 15 minutes with just me helping me find a book for my mom based on her preferences. Or the times I've gone to the hardware store and spent 30 minutes with someone walking me through a project and giving me useful advice based on years of accumulated knowledge. I've never tipped in those places and never been promoted for a tip. And as someone who has worked in both a bookstore and a paint store before, I can assure you no one there is making a lot of money.

But apparently in order to be a "good person" I'm supposed to always tip a minimum of 20% at a restaurant no matter if the people who work there make the same wages as retail workers, even if there is no table service, even if there is a service fee, even I had to order from a self service kiosk?

I am at a point where I think the restaurant industry is just broken and I'd be fine with like 80% of restaurants going out of business. If they can't employee people at a fair wage without customers having to pay an be the listed price to augment their compensation, they are doing it wrong. First gure out a better way and get back to me.[/quote]

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