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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Fact of the matter is that the Ivies have started to move on from schools like Stuy and TJ in favor of very wealthy international students. So yeah, 30 years ago Stuy would send 25-30 to Harvard alone. But today? Harvard doesn't want that many kids from Stuy. Sure, Stuy grads will have an outsized number of placements in banking, tech, etc compared to other high schools. But those wealthy foreign kids are development cases from Day 1 and their families are more than happy to start donating if it can cement a long-lasting relationship with Harvard or Yale. [/quote] Know the Stuy valedictorian from a few years ago. Extremely well-rounded, super-engaged, mega-bright kid. Comes from an affluent, but not "Ivy development case" family. Rejected Harvard. [/quote] Sure, n=1. They probably went on to one of the other dozen T20 schools where they were admitted, likely with a full ride. But the facts bear out that compared to 30 years ago, the Stuy's and TJs are sending less kids to the Ivy League. Probably in spite of having even smarter kids these days. And that's because international students are starting to majorly crowd-out domestic students from public schools. I'd love to see some legislation on this issue from our federal government. [/quote] The only legislation I want to see is a law that grants these international students a provisional greencard. The percentage of international students at harvard has doubled from 8% to 16% over the past 30 years. international students are not crowding out domestic students by a whole lot. Stuy and Tj aren't sending as many kids to college because the pool of applicants used to be 100% of Tj students plus maybe 30% of students from other schools. Now its closer to 80% so some of those kids are getting spots at the top schools too. They are dealing with a wave of domestic competition.[/quote]
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