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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This was just freshman year. She has time to get her grades up, OP. Likely she had to adjust to high school expectations. As the PP said, the trend is important, and freshman year grades don't count as much as sophomore or junior year grades.[/quote] It’s so competitive these days. Most kids have an unweighted 3.8-4.0 for T20s. So, Freshmen year can really bring down that total gpa. Upper level courses only get harder. We explained that to our kids- rack up those As first two years as a cushion. Junior year is tough. My oldest had an uw 4 at a tough private and got in everywhere. His friends slightly lower were frozen out of T20s. [/quote] This. My rising senior has a 3.85 with top rigor in math/science at a Big3. He/she is literally "on the line" for every single top20. I.e. per college counseling--best case scenario this kid gets into one. We have been surprised how harsh the reality is, as I had read on DCUM for years that colleges understand the deflated grading and that the average kids (3.6s, etc) will do so great with admissions. It's just not happening if you actually look at the data. I think there are posters on here who had graduates from 5+ years ago or are just parroting what they hear (which are tall tales). Let me tell you i WISH it was different. My kid worked extraordinarily hard for the 3.8+.[/quote] Sometimes I wish there were a pop up box that required the person to enter the year their DC graduated from college. Folks get on here and pop off about this and that ("my DC got into an Ivy only taking 2 years of science"), then end up saying "Oh, my DCs graduated in 2012 and 2015." [/quote]
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