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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The elephant in the room that nobody wants to acknowledge is paying for test prep. Affluent families who pay big money for someone to help their kids with test prep give their kids a huge advantage in this test required world. Until someone figures out how to normalize for that, the whole system is still going to be messed up - test optional, test required, or whatever else! Maybe scores should be reduced by 0.1 point for every dollar you pay for test prep (pay $1000 your score gets reduced 100 points) and require a legally binding agreement that if you lie about your costs you forfeit your acceptance [/quote] Why can’t they add questions to their application process such as: did you use an SAT/ACT tutor? Some of these problems are not so difficult to solve. [/quote] Why? If asked: -to know if family can afford test prep/tutoring (presuming tutoring/test prep) leads to better scores. -you think they will honestly answer anyways?[/quote] The interesting thing is that scores predict success pretty much the same across all racial and income groups. If you can get the score (no matter how) it corresponds to success in college. The prep argument is also much less relevant than it used to be; almost everyone has the ability to prep, and free prep (khan academy) is quite good. Who actually preps is also somewhat surprising; Asians prep the most (not surprising), followed by blacks, then Hispanics and lastly whites. This holds for all types of prep. Eliminating all prep wouldn’t “eliminate” gaps, and might make them worse.[/quote] Can you share where you found this data? [/quote]
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