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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The elephant in the room that nobody wants to acknowledge is paying for test prep. Affluent families who pay big money for someone to help their kids with test prep give their kids a huge advantage in this test required world. Until someone figures out how to normalize for that, the whole system is still going to be messed up - test optional, test required, or whatever else! Maybe scores should be reduced by 0.1 point for every dollar you pay for test prep (pay $1000 your score gets reduced 100 points) and require a legally binding agreement that if you lie about your costs you forfeit your acceptance [/quote] Same with getting extra time. Head of learning specialty center reports 1/3 of the private school has extra time for various reasons yet psychologists will tell you much less than 1/3 of students have true disabilities requiring extra time. Keep in mind said school tests students to get accepted and one must have 85th%ile or above on WISC /ssat unless one is a teacher’s kid or a legacy and the vast majority secure the necessary score years before the parents secure them extra time on the SAT or ACT. No way 1/3 of this population has true learning disabilities needing extra time. [/quote] Both my kids have ADHD (it runs strongly in our family) and were diagnosed in elementary school. They attend top private schools. Their IQs at age 4 were exceptionally high (145+) which definitely helps with Pre-k and kindergarten admission into these schools. My understanding is that ADHD doesn’t show up on these early IQ test because the tests for younger kids doesn’t accurately test processing speed. Once they re-take the IQ test in 2nd or 3rd grade, the huge processing speed discrepancy appears and they are diagnosed with ADHD. IQ numbers drop at this point because the processing speed is really low. I have been through this a lot. Many, many ADHD kids are very smart. I don’t think 1/3 of the population has ADHD, but I am just explaining how a high IQ test can get you into a top school at a young age and can’t really screen out ADHD. Sometimes behavior linked to ADHD is easy to see at a young age (extreme inability to sit still or class disruption), but these things can show up a bit later (2nd grade) when expectations for academic performance and attention shift. [/quote]
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