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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The issues is that there is a great variety of quality of life in the city but in the suburbs the extremes are not as drastic (but still exist).

The difference in quality of life between the most expensive and least expensive parts of DC is very dramatic. In terms of size of homes, green space, crime, schools, traffic and noise, you name it.

This division also exists in the most and least expensive parts of the DC suburbs but there is a vaster middle ground where you get many of the amenities of the most expensive neighborhoods and can limit things like crime and noise.

Though I also think that the pricier an area gets, the less of a bargain the suburbs offer middle class people.  Because the bargain gets pushed further and further out which increases commutes while decreasing access to city amenities. The inner suburbs are becoming unaffordable to the middle class in this area (except for those inner suburbs with the highest crime and lowest school test scores). When people are commuting in from Howard County or Frederick or Loudon, the tradeoffs are more stark.  So you have people  with decent middle class incomes choosing to stay in the city where at least they get walkability and amenities. If your only other options are SS or PG where crime and schools are about the same or moving much further out, why not just stay? [/quote]

Work for a large DC hospital with tons of middle class (nurses, etc) and barely anyone actually lives in DC. Everyone commutes in. [/quote]

Because they can’t afford to. So they get stuck in grim ticky tack developments with subpar construction and get saddled with crippling debt. They should be treated better. [/quote]

Agree they can't afford to. And this is why I get irritated at plans to just shut down major traffic lanes without thought to provide better avenues into the city. City dwellers have a lot of disdain for the commuters who can't afford to live here yet provide their services, healthcare and more. I agree I hate busy roads in neighborhoods but the bigger picture has to account for how people can realistically get to their jobs but can't afford to live here.[/quote]

Decades of research shows that expanding car infrastructure has the opposite effect - it adds volume and worsens congestion and is harmful to the urban communities.

This isn’t an anti suburb thing, it’s just science.

And a lot of the problems urban areas do have is due to failed transportation policies that favored single person auto use.  [/quote]

It is not science, it is a reddit based ideology, one that has emerged because Gen Z men can't afford cars so they need to rationalize them as evil.[/quote]

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