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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It absolutely matters how it arrived and it’s just gaslighting by liberals to suggest otherwise.[/quote]

What’s the gaslighting? People predicting “lab leak China virus!!!” in 2020 were throwing sh#t at the wall like monkeys, based on no hard evidence. [/quote]

PP to mine. Suggesting that it “doesn’t matter” how the virus arrived. Of course it does! Millions died!
 
No hard evidence? The laboratory doing the research was in the exact same vicinity to where the virus first appeared. That wasn’t some random guess nor was it rocket science.  “The year before the outbreak, the Wuhan institute, working with U.S. partners, had proposed creating viruses with SARS‑CoV‑2’s defining feature” - NYT. Read Alina Chan’s just published essay.

Where was the evidence for a naturally occurring virus? No animal reservoir was found months and months of looking. [/quote]

Yes, I did read the article - it’s excellent. But at the time, there was no hard evidence of a lab leak. You had multiple strands of circumstantial evidence - location of Wuhan lab but also wet market being an epicenter of contagion - that supported multiple theories.

But Chan’s article has the benefit of 4+ years of distance, investigation, and research. In April 2020, you had no hard evidence of lab leak. That’s a fact. And it really wouldn’t have mattered at the time - we were all scrambling and folks were dying.

You and I would’ve done nothing differently had we known it was a lab leak. It really doesn’t matter, other than it makes some people feel happy to gloat. [/quote]

We aren’t saying we had all the evidence of a lab leak at the time, but every suggestion of a lab leak was viciously shut down. It was treated as xenophobia, a conspiracy theory, the theory that should not be named. That isn’t science. Science is open minded and follows the evidence. The elite public health bureaucracy colluded with the media to shut down all investigations of a lab leak. To deny this is to ignore history - we all lived it and know exactly what happened.

I disagree that things wouldn’t have been done differently if we had known it was a lab leak. Our relationship with  China would have been profoundly different and perhaps more assertiveness from the beginning would have led to political pressure for documentation and lab notes before it was all destroyed.

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Maybe if people who wanted us to take them seriously about this had previously behaved in professional, ethical ways, more people would have taken them seriously. But it was yahoos like Jim Jordan and Tom Cotton saying it and they are like the boy who cried wolf.

But also… what does it matter?  Do you think China is going to forgive all our loans because they accidentally harmed us? [/quote]

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