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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]ask any seasonal reader of application. The first cut isGPA and test scores. Then class rank -and before you yell my high school doesnt rank! - it does via the school profile sent by the high school with each applicant. it contains no of kids in the applicant class, the gpa distribution, the most rigorous courses offered and a bar graph to show what percentage of the class is actually taking those courses. The reader can figure out class rank in seconds. Also, readers look for clues like honor society. Only after meeting the school's minimum stats does the application go to the AO staff and ultimately the regional AO who is familiar with the school and howpast admittees have performed at that college. The reader also ferrets out hooks.[/quote] Our private’s college counselor does not fill out grade distro; most rigorous courses; or the bar graph. I suspect they can still get stats/scores/avgerages from landmark though? Note the regional reps forT25s are all familiar with our school’s unique curriculum/ teachers /classes hard to get As in and the best writers of LOR - so maybe this is a moot point.[/quote] I don't think you are asking the right questions. The info is in the school profile sent by the high school, public or private. Bear in mind that college counselors are in a bind. The high schools don't want push-back from parents so they will do anything to avoid admitting they rank or they don't check off the most rigorous box. Yet, the colleges know. The information is all there provided by the counselor. That's what readers look for in the first cull. Plus they already have a dossier on your school from prior applicants and their successes at the University.[/quote] I think certain privates do this differently. I’ve already had one go through the process so asked a ton of questions. Ours get around this. No rank no nothing. The school profile doesn’t tell them anything either - no avg grades no avg test score etc. and the school profile is publicly available so everyone has seen it…. However selective schools have their own databases for high schools that they know well - and they use the applicant grades/scores to track against the students they’ve admitted from the past from that school. Plus regional AO/reps know what to look for. But landmark does this job too? So the colleges have plenty of data on each high school, even if not provided by the school itself…..I don’t think anything the counselor provides is actually that valuable anymore. [/quote] +2 Colleges now use AI to track performance of students by high school. It includes their high school GPA and current college GPA. Really common. The regional AOs rely on these metrics. This is why certain colleges have favorite high schools that they admit from routinely. [/quote] Colleges have been doing this simple tracking for years. Nothing "AI" about it. Colleges love reliable yield and this is one mechanism for doing it. More than performance, they look for longevity.. how many kids from a particular school yield and how many of them continue to stay in college after year 1. Those factors are more important to them than how well the student does. [/quote]
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