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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Not a prior poster.  Michigan has football and Ann Arbor going for it.  It also has great name recognition with the Proles.  Apart from the Ivys (and most Proles have no f-ing clue who the Ivys are apart from H-Y-P....I mean what's Brown apart from a color and what the heck is a Dartmouth??), your average Prole frame of college reference revolves around football.  Big Ten and SEC especially.  So Michigan checks that box.  The drama and lawsuits relating to admissions a generation ago conjured up the image of Michigan as academically elite.  The Big Chill of a generation before that made it cool.

But it's basically just a big state school with good football and a decent college town.  Everything else is just hype.

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I am not affiliated with Michigan and went to a rival school. UM has football and Ann Arbor, but it also has top 10 and in many cases, top 5 programs in virtually every department it runs. So no, not just an "average" state school. It is among the best, along with Cal and UCLA. Average would be Kansas State or SDSU.[/quote]

Went to Michigan for graduate school as in-state student. It's a phenomenal school. There is tremendous energy and the ability to make it whatever you want it to be. I went there with a very specific end game and it has worked well. Plus the alumni population means I can go anywhere and find a network.

Law, business, psychology (in fact any social science), engineering, public policy, all excellent departments. Is UM perfect? Of course not, no school is. Is there too much hype around football and The Michigan Difference? Yeah, they could cut the PR.

For undergraduate? Big when you get there, but soon enough class sizes are small and connections you make are a big help for graduate school applications.[/quote]

I think the confusion here is professional education vs academics. Does Umich have amazing professional schools which are targets for all industries. Yes and they should be proud of that. But that’s a different question than are the academics good. Umich’s entire college of Letters and Science has been historically insignificant, and you can simply dismiss rankings which put them highly.

If we are indeed talking about academics, then in the Midwest no one is close to where Wisconsin and Uchicago are. Wisconsin has invented the field of American History, as well as granted the first doctorates in history, geology, chemical engineering, etc. Chicago has been extremely influential in economics and physics, although the Wisconsin School of economics in the first half of the 20th century was probably just as important as the Chicago School.[/quote]

The obnoxious Wisconsin booster once again opens an old thread. Just give it up already. [/quote]

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