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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up in NY and went to Cornell A&S and my DMV kid is there now, also in A&S, so zero ax to grind here but a fair amount of knowledge.  The notion that the contract schools are not Ivy League schools is bizarre and ridiculous. As others have said, the Ivy League is a sports league, and the sports teams are comprised of students from all of the schools.  And in response to the poster who commented that other Ivies are liberal arts -- nobody seems to be suggesting that Cornell's engineering school is not Ivy League.  But even more, all the diplomas are from the same, Cornell University.  Neither I nor any of my friends thought of our friends in Ag or Human ecology as attending a different University or different level of university, and I've never heard my kid, there now, say that either.  And I have NEVER heard of an employer even questioning someone about which college from cornell they went to.

For sure, as someone from my era said, many NYS residents went to Ag and took Ag Ec if they were interested in going into business rather than spend more money for a straight Econ degree in A&S, and the same for pre-med students who took the Ag bio major instead of the A&S one.  From what my kid tells me, that continues, with most of their NYS friends being in the Ag school.

No doubt, especially for NYS residents, it's easier to get into Ag and Human Ecology than into Engineering and A&S, but there's also a difference between the acceptance rates for Engineering and A&S for everyone.

To answer OP's questions: first, although you can see published acceptance rates and it's clear that the state schools give some preference for NYS students, I've never seen anything that actually says what the different rates are.  And I know top OOS students rejected from those schools.  Second, and more importantly for your purposes, know that Cornell has one of the best Vet schools in the country, as well as a terrific Animal Science program in the Ag school, and so I would not at all assume that the rate of admission for OOS pre-vet students would equal the published rate of acceptance for Ag in general.  That type of question really should be posed to the Admissions office or a college counselor.  Also be aware that Ag is one of the Cornell schools that will still be test blind for this Fall's applications.

Finally, I would choose which school to apply to there based on acceptance rates unless you are truly interested in what that school offers.  While you can take classes in different schools while there, you can only major in your own school's offerings, and there is a credit limit on the number of out of school classes you can take, as well as very different requirements for each school. And although internal transfer is possible, it is not guaranteed and I believe generally requires an application, as well as available space, so probably not something to count on.[/quote]

OP here- this is all very helpful. DC would only consider Cornell because of the specific program in the Human Ecology program, not as a back door to the university as a whole.  We were just trying to figure out whether it should be an ED contender, so need to have a general sense of acceptance rates.  My sense is that it is still going to be too much of a long shot for an unhooked OOS kid--even one whose profile looks pretty perfect for this program--but maybe they should go ahead and apply RD if their ED doesn't work out.

Thanks to all who provided valuable insights. [/quote]

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