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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree with other posters than Cal is in its own league, with UCLA and Michigan close.

UT is a tough admit, but so are UCs. IMO the “elite level” is static. 10+ years in the future it will actually be easier to get into college as we see declining birth rates.

I don’t think UT is better or worse than UCSD, UCSB, UCI, UF, UIUC, UW-M. These schools will always be in the T25-T50 range with some slight movement year over year.

I know UT has strong engineering and business programs. But the other “tier 2” schools also have their own strong programs. [b]TBH, UT has never really been on my radar until the last few years, so no it will never catch up to Berkeley or Michigan.[/b]

I’m sure Austin is awesome and is becoming more and more of an attractive city! But I have a slight bias for West Coast and Midwest schools ;) Can’t pay me to move to TX.[/quote]

And anyone here should care about which schools are on your “radar” because…? UT-Austin has been a top public university for many years.[/quote]

No one has to care lol. But OP is asking for opinions and I gave mine. UT is a top public but that doesn’t make it on the same level as Michigan. UT is far closer to mid-tier UCs and UIUC, UF.[/quote]

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It is absurd Michigan has RISEN to the level of Berkeley over the last 2 decades. Shows what work professional schools+ out of state admissions can do. [/quote]

Nobody here has stated that Michigan is at the same level as Berkeley.  UCLA has risen to Michigan’s level over the past two decades. Those are the three top publics in this country. Professional schools and top OOS students are definitely in the equation when ranking top schools. Very few schools are like the top three, with academic strengths across ALL disciplines.   Schools that are overwhelmingly instate, with the exception of the UCs since the population of California is so huge, will have a large percentage of good, but not great, students. Texas is a prime example.  That top 6% rule includes thousands of mediocre students from weaker high schools.

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