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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hello, If your child was accepted into a highly selective college, how many Bs did they have? If you don't mind, could you name the school? I know this is a silly question as admissions is holistic, but trying to gauge which schools we should target early decision/early action. There are differing opinions in our family![/quote] Seeking these anecdotes will not help you. A single "B" at some high schools puts kids outside the top20%, because the average grade in the honors and AP classes is an A- or an A. If those high schools only get highly selective admissions from the top 5-10%, the kids with a B or so do not have a chance. Students with 2-3 Bs at some rigorous non-inflated high schools can be within the top 5-10%, and if that high school has many unhooked kids into highly selective schools deep into the top 25% of that high school, then the top10% kids with Bs are fine. [/quote][b] This does not take rigor into account at all. [/quote][/b] True. while OP is lookong for a panacea and many are willing to give examples, the truth is that your child is competing against the very top kids in their own high school (and then nationwide, and then against the full pay international students) so it really comes down to top credentials across the board. Take UVA, for example.[b] We know the applicant needs to be in top 6% of the high school class, have taken the most rigorous courses offered by that high school[/b], have taken four years of foreign language, scored a 34 or better on the ACT, has superlative ECs and national honors, gives back to the community, walks on water and has a 4.51 GPA (75th percentile of last year's incoming class). That doesn't leave much room for a few Bs in regular core classes. I'm not saying the system is right. it just is what it is. Unless your kid is hooked. [/quote] The issue here is that these are sometimes in conflict. If Kid X has all-As in regular classes and Kid Y has 2Bs and 1 B- in AP or IB classes, will Kid X be looked at more favorably because of the As? Or will admissions overlook the B or B- that Kid Y has when they see that it’s in a “rigorous” course. I know maybe we *shouldn’t* compare—but since we’re told that admissions considers students compared to how they perform against other students at they’re own school, I am curious to know the heirarchy in this scenario. Seriously. It’s obviously “better” to get As in the tough test courses if you can. But if a student takes the toughest courses and gets a B-, would the student have been “better off” take the regular course and getting an A —-in the eyes of admissions, that is? [/quote]
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