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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]We considered some of these schools, and my student will be going to Macalester this fall. In terms of diversity, Mac has slightly fewer students identifying as white than Oberlin, and also has more international students. When you add in the feel of the surrounding urban areas-- St. Paul and Minneapolis are very diverse, with large communities of, for example, Ethiopians and Hmong-- I can't imagine that a student spending four years at Oberlin would feel that they're in a more diverse environment than one at Mac. You should definitely visit both.

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Oberlin&s=all&id=204501#enrolmt

https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Macalester&s=all&id=173902#enrolmt [/quote]

Thank you! I was reading PPs post thinking hmm that’s weird that mac is whiter than oberlin or Kenyon. surely an urban school in a diverse city like MSP is more diverse than a school in rural Ohio. So I see the PP is just wrong! 😆 [/quote]

Macalaster is in the middle of a residential neighborhood. I guess you can get picky about how to define urban vs suburban. [b]But GW or NYU or NEU type urban it is not. [/b]When you’re  on campus you don’t feel like you are in the middle of a big city. Or even a college town.What’s walkable feels suburban, even if it’s with St Paul. I view this as a plus. It has a discrete campus, which many truly urban schools do not.

It also feels very white. That was my impression and both DCs (visited once with each). It doesn’t matter how diverse the surrounding area is. Most kids at these colleges are not from the surrounding areas. The reported numbers seem off for Mac, but they have a high international population, so I think they get counted as “international” and not white. Kenyon and Oberlin— also very white.  None of these SlACs are attracting racial diversity. [/quote]

Um duh? I think everyone knows that St Paul isn’t as bustling urban of a city as DC, NYC, or Boston. That doesn’t make it a suburb.[/quote]

Mac is in St. Paul, but it's in a suburban part of St. Paul.  Somewhat similar to AU being in DC, but the AU neighborhood feeling very suburban. [/quote]

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