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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Admissions rate as the heaviest weighted factor is not useful because colleges game this by offering no "supplemental essay" requirements, test optional, freebies, to boost the number of applications. [/quote] People keep saying this, but any school would love to have a sub-15% admit rate. But they can’t. Admission rate needs to be adjusted for % of class ED, for having multiple ED rounds (and EA to boot, like Chicago does), for yield, and for percentage of transfer students (looking at you, Columbia GS, Oxford Emory, and UVA Wise). But if that’s done properly, it would be the only ranking we need — and far superior to US News’ ranking. And far more helpful, too, because the point of an application is getting in…[/quote] Totally disagree. Why would rejecting lots of students make it a good school?[/quote] Name one school with a single-digit admissions rate that is not a good school. You can’t. And now you have answered your question.[/quote] Northeastern. It's not a bad school, but it's not nearly as "selective" as it appears. If you ED full pay, with good GPA, even TO, odds are about 40% you'll get in under their "alternative" programs like N.U.in which starts in Europe first semester and doesn't count toward acceptance. It's not cheating, it's strategic. The head of enrollment came from Tulane, where the selectivity also skyrocketed, to help accelerate the model of rapid grad school campus expansion and low-barrier to entry with highly sophisticated enrollment management algorithms. Again, it's not bad, it's just not as academically well-regarded as it's peers on this list. For undergrads it's a sink-or-swim attitude. Not because it's harder, it's just that undergrads are really the strategic focus. Our student turned them down after spending time on campus with actual students, not admissions. Bottom line, it's all apples and oranges. Until there are consistent ways that schools conduct admissions, there's really no point in harping on selectivity. AI yield management is indeed selective, but not in the way you might think. [/quote] This is true for pretty much any ED school outside of the Ivy League. ED provides such a big advantage which benefits upper income students the most![/quote]
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