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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You'll see a wide variety here so don't despair if your future lawyer doesn't go to an Ivy:

https://hls.harvard.edu/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/jdapplicants/hls-profile-and-facts/undergraduate-institutions/[/quote]

Take a deeper look: 45 of the 147 schools are Top40ish Universities or Top15 LACs, and 20 of them are ivy-plus (Stan, Duke etc). There are 556 L1s . It is unlikely anything below the more competitive 45 schools has more than one admit. Those 45 may have two or more. The ivy-plus 20 may have even more each and in fact could make up half the class . Given that the ivy plus schools are small in size compared to others, there is significantly higher chance to get in from one of them than from a school outside the 45, nevermind all the schools not on the list. [/quote]

You're misattributing their successful admission to the college they attended instead of to the individual. The reason more people are admitted from highly selective undergrad programs is that more highly capable students are in those programs.[/quote]

This 1000%

And the more highly capable students who ended up at "elite" colleges tend to also have more financial means, meaning they know they can afford an elite law school.  The highly capable kids who opted for state u or other private school and joined the honors program most likely are still thinking, how can I get a law degree from a good school and not be in debt until I'm 50+.

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Of course this is but another thing posted on DCUM that nobody can prove or disprove...but something just doesn't make sense.

If there are supposedly many highly capable kids going to the Honors school at these state schools and are aiming for top law schools...why do many of these schools only have 1 graduate at Harvard vs. I don't know 15 from say Dartmouth (honestly, I am using the information that Yale provided like 3 years ago in terms of the numbers and extending it to Harvard)?  That doesn't make any sense to me if what you say is correct.

I would imagine there are hundreds if not thousands of graduates from these State school honors programs...in theory, they had very high SAT/ACT scores in order to get accepted into those programs...yet they are not represented at Top 10 law schools anywhere close to some of these other schools.

Are you saying that the "good" law schools are say University of Minnesota (I only picked that because it was rated top 15 in the latest US News survey) vs. shooting for Harvard?[/quote]

There are many reasons the numbers may be lower from the state honors colleges:

1) maybe the culture at elite undergrads encourages a career in law more than that at state schools.
2) your assumption that state honors college students are all equally as capable as elite college students is probably incorrect. Many who are interested in law school may know there's no way they'll get in.
3) Harvard may be geographically undesirable for many state school grads compared to those from Dartmouth or MIT or Yale or any of the other Ivies, all of which are geographically reasonably close. It's a big country, and not everyone wants to study or practice in the Northeast.
4) Harvard (or Yale or other T14 law schools) may be financially undesirable for many state school grads.
5) Harvard may be philosophically undesirable for some reason.
Etc...[/quote]

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