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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't mind if people are religious, as long as they keep it to themselves.  Meaning: stop making laws based on your holy book and not on basic human morality.  [/quote]

There is no “basic human morality” without the reference point people refer to as “God.”[/quote]

That is a claim you have to prove or it is easy to dismiss BS.

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You’re not paying attention.

The very idea of “right,” “wrong,” “moral” and “immoral” require some authoritative reference point, some “lawgiver.”  Otherwise relativism takes over. What one person thinks is good (typically for them) someone else will decide is evil (typically because it has a negative effect on them).  All sorts of behaviors that present day people in the West disapprove of on grounds of “basic human morality” used to be thought of as perfectly OK in the West, and still are in other places. Likewise, all sorts of behaviors that present day people in the West think are fine used to be roundly condemned in the West and still are in much of the world.

If history proves anything it is that human beings are very poor at coming up and living in accord with any sort of “universal morality.”

It is a common philosophical error to blame some human-defined “god” for this or that. Philosophically, “God” is the label people have come up with for a being with a certain set of immutable attributes that exist independent of that label. What is right or wrong can only be measured by comparison to some objective perfection — one of the attributes of “God.”[/quote]

That’s a lot of words, which started with an unnecessary insult.  And yet no evidence of your claim is presented, and it can be therefore summarily dismissed.
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Wow. “Summarily dismissed.”  How about that.

Aquinas will be heartbroken.

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