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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]EVs are largely a scam.  Compared to a hybrid, an EV is worse for the environment (from pollution during battery production and reduced vehicle lifespan even with battery replacements) and costs more money (vehicle price, insurance premiums, cost of electricity, rapid depreciation, etc)[/quote]

None of this is actually true.[/quote]

All of it is true.  In some areas of the country, depending on gas prices and home electricity prices, charging is more expensive than gas.  An ICE vehicle will last 2-3x as long as an EV because replacing the battery on an older EV costs more than the vehicle is worth.[/quote]

There is no part of the country where charging is more than gas.  Seriously name one.

And an ICE vehicle will cost a lot to keep running for 30 years. You can easily save $5-10k in maintenance and repair costs with EV. [/quote]

My ICE vehicle has cost virtually nothing to maintain for the first 15 years.  Mostly cheap oil changes and tires/brakes which EVs need replaced too.

When gas is near $3/gal it is absolutely near parity with home electric prices or below for a fuel efficient vehicle in virtually all of the country except places with high gas prices.[/quote]

At 40mpg at $3/gallon, it’s 0.075 per mile a or roughly twice as expensive as it is to charge the average electric vehicle.

But keep living in your fantasy world.  The recent spate of “sky is falling” PR about EVs has really gotten to people.  All of that was based on the rate of GROWTH slowing.  EV adoption is still growing as a % of total vehicle purchases just not as fast as it was last year and the press went crazy about the secret cost of EVs.

And all the knuckle draggers happily began parroting the talking points.[/quote]

From here https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2023/electric-vehicle-charging-price-vs-gasoline/

“ I wanted to see why those arguing against the economics of EVs came to such a different conclusion. For this, I contacted Patrick Anderson, whose Michigan-based consulting firm works with the auto industry and assesses the cost of EVs each year. It has consistently found most EVs to be more expensive to refuel.
Anderson told me that many economists leave out costs that should be part of any calculation of recharging costs: state EV taxes replacing gas taxes, costs of home chargers, transmission losses while recharging (about 10 percent), and the cost of driving to sometimes distant public fueling stations. These are small but real costs, he says. Together, they tip the balance toward gasoline cars.”[/quote]

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