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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel like this would take us down the road of people wearing stars, crosses and moons. That is, of identifying by their religion. There have been Supreme Court cases about whether any of these should be allowed in the workplace because it might make others uncomfortable. Would you really want to work in an office where 2/3 were wearing crosses? [/quote] And rulings have consistently been that religious people are free to wear them. There is no uncertainty here. Yeah, "there have been Supreme Court case". There have also been rulings, you idiot. You are advocating the same line of thinking that prohibits women from covering their heads (whether Muslim or Christian--this is also a historical Christian practice) or taking on other self-identifying marks of faith. Just because YOU don't think these symbols are important doesn't mean you can enforce that on everyone else.[/quote] Whoosh. Look who’s calling who an idiot. The question is, do you really want all your Christian and Palestinian coworkers saying, hey, cool, it’s ok again to broadcast our religions (after not being completely ok for a while), so I’ll go ahead pull my confirmation cross/moon back out? Some people feel uncomfortable surrounded by crosses at work or being treated by someone with a cross. So yeah, those people have brought cases all the way to the Supreme Court. As you rudely said as you missed the point, yeah, SCOTUS has ruled. But the point was the discomfort that made people bring the cases. I take it you’d be fine it though. [/quote] I got your point, but I didn't respond to the stupidest part, the "uncomfortable" comment. What you're really saying is that you're such a bigot that if your Muslim coworker was wearing a crescent necklace you would be...what? "Uncomfortable" to the point of, again, what? It's an absurd and stupid point. You are talking about "comfort" vs. someone closely held religious belief that does not hurt you. Be "uncomfortable". It is the tiny, tiny price of living in a free, pluralist society.[/quote] DP and Jewish. It doesn't bother me when people wear a crucifix or a crescent. They are free to wear whatever they want as an expression of their faith, the same way I wear my Star of David. I feel differently about religious symbols in the workplace, like a crucifix hanging on the wall of your office or something. That makes a semi-public space into a religious space in a way that your personal jewelry does not, and I don't particularly care to sit in your office for a meeting with a crucifix hanging over us. I have no basis to feel that way, other than my own gut feeling that there is a difference between the two situations, but that's my 2 cents.[/quote] Not sure I agree or disagree with you tbh… I think I’d be ok with a symbol of any religion on the wall as long as it’s wasn’t a hate symbol. How do you feel about Christmas decor in the office though? Or other religious decor? [/quote] PP here. Personally, I don't love Christmas decor in the office, but I recognize I'm not going to win any battles on that front, so I don't bother.[/quote] Yeah. I do think that decorating the walls with the overt symbols of the powerful majority religion is unfriendly to those in the minority, in a way that decorating with the symbols of a minority religion just isn't. But it isn't a big deal, not to me at least. If you're the member of a minority, you would go crazy if you did anything except shrug and accept these omnipresent displays.[/quote]
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