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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Schev reports that last years class reported a 1510 at the 75th percentile; a 1470 at the median and a 1410 for the bottom 25th percentile. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp[/quote]

Wow! Much lower than I expected![/quote]

Tell me you are joking.  This was precovid average SAT scores:

1. Cal Tech 1544
2. MIT 1507
3. Olin College of Engineering 1506
4. UChicago 1506
5. Yale 1498
5. Vanderbilt 1498
7. Harvard 1497
8. Princeton 1490
9. Harvey Mudd 1484
10. Rice 1482
11. Stanford 1479
12. Columbia 1473
13. Wash Univ 1469
14. Northwestern 1460
15. Penn 1457
15. Brown 1457
17. Notre Dame 1455
18. Johns Hopkins 1453
19. Amherst 1451
20. Duke 1450
21. Carnegie Mellon 1448
22. Williams 1442
23. Webb Iinstitute 1442
24. Dartmouth 1437
25. Pomona 1435
25. Northeastern 1435[/quote]

Pre-Covid also corresponded with pre-test optional.  Test optional has made meaningful compares much more difficult.[/quote]

Uh, no, we know why test optional exists and why colleges like it. Look at the UC system.  This is all about social engineering of entering classes.  Test optional allows the school to do whatever it wants in terms of social engineering.  You know that. Everyone knows that.  The UC system knows that (there was research done by the Regents that showed that testing DID predict academic success at the UC schools ... but, gosh, that was inconvenient so Covid came around and now they are all doing no tests.  Meanwhile the giants are shifting back to requiring tests.  [/quote]

The social engineering is a good thing. Colleges SHOULD be creating diverse cohorts.

I don't know where you're getting that "the giants are shifting back to requiring tests." I've seen Dartmouth and that's about it. So far as I know, test optional is here to stay, and that's a good thing since it's not really a strong indicator of who will be successful in college. Schools know this.[/quote]

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