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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even if OP is overreacting and her DC is not exactly following procedures.....this seems like the time for the teacher to set up a meeting to help both child and parent understand what the missing link is. This will make kid accountable to parent and parent will see that the teacher has outlined everything to both parent/kid.[/quote]

Are you using not following procedures as a euphemism for cheating, or do you not understand what we teachers are saying is likely going on?

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Are you concluding, based on extremely limited information, that a student you do not know is a cheater?

Agree an in-person meeting with OP, student, teacher and an admin is needed to clear this up. OP, stop trying to do this via email and make time for the meeting. 
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I am saying the student is likely not following procedures that are there for a good reason.

PP seems to think that it’s likely a misunderstanding.  I am saying that OP needs to go into the meeting understanding that it might not be.[/quote]

No, you said the student is probably cheating and the PP is just not getting it.

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I’m one of the teachers on this thread (but not the one you are responding to). It is the likely cause of this situation, to be honest. It’s the clearest way to make sense of OP’s post. Which is more likely? That the teacher defiantly isn’t grading something, even though time stamps would show when it was submitted proving the teacher is lying? Or that the student didn’t submit properly in an effort to mask the version history?[/quote]

I am also a teacher. Once you have submitted a document on Google Classroom, you can't edit it unless you unsubmit and resubmit. So there is no way to submit a blank document and go back to change it without the teacher knowing it. There is no way to mask version history on GC. You also can't edit documents on Canvas after it's submitted. I don't know about other LMSs.

And yes, sometimes teachers lie. During COVID, my daughter's work was consistently marked as "missing" when it was clearly submitted on Google Classroom. I could see that the teacher never even opened the documents. I emailed the teacher to inquire, and then magically, a bunch of comments from the teacher were written on the documents. The teacher replied that the work wasn't actually missing, the problem was that my daughter hadn't revised the work and resumbitted. But of course, the commenting feature on Google Docs is date and timestamped, and her comments were all made AFTER I had emailed her. So we got on Zoom for a meeting, I pulled all the documents up to prove that what she was saying simply wasn't the truth. Her only explanation? "Well, I don't know why those dates are there, I made those comments weeks ago-- you should talk to IT because I don't know why it says that." I said "I don't need to talk to IT, because I can see with my own eyes." In my case, administration backed me up because there was irrefutable proof the teacher was simply trying to cover her own ***. Because I am also a teacher, I know how it works. But sometimes teachers count on the fact that parents don't understand the LMS.

Like I said, I am a teacher, I support teachers. But teachers should also be able to back up their grades with evidence. If they resist doing that, it's a red flag.[/quote]

I’m the PP. Many private schools, including mine, use a different LMS. Students can submit documents and continue to change them within ours.

I still believe this is the clearest way to understand OP’s story. [/quote]

What LMS is this?[/quote]

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