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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Nobody should ever consent to a voluntary search. No lawyer would ever advise you to waive your rights in this way. The only people "voluntarily" giving up their rights are people who are uneducated and are being manipulated to act against their own self interest in some way. This is not how police departments should operate. Cops shouldn't be dishonest and tricking ordinary citizens into waiving essential right that protect them from the state. [/quote]

Zero sympathy if the “ordinary citizen” has an illegal weapon in the car. [/quote]

I fail to see how a “weapon” (however you interpret the term) is of any danger to anyone simply being transported in a car.

I’m not speaking of a weapon being brandished or held or about to be used/being used - I just  mean the stereotypical example of a gun or knife or baseball bat or golf club in the car. Those items don’t present a danger to anyone simply being in the car and transported around. There is no criminal intent there.

Police shouldn’t be able to search cars thinking they’ll turn up something that wasn’t being used nefariously to begin with.

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Cops don't take legally transported weapons. They take the illegal ones. And those are absolutely on their way to hurt someone. https://www.fox5dc.com/news/3-suspects-commit-armed-robbery-at-ethiopian-restaurant-in-silver-spring [/quote]

How is a cop supposed to know which gun is “legal” and which is “illegal”? [/quote]

State law. For example:

Nobody under 21 can have one at all. They are a prohibited person.

No one convicted of a crime of violence.

No one convicted of certain felonies.

No one who has a protective order lodged against them.

No one who is a fugitive from justice.

No one who is under 30 and who had a juvenile delinquency for a qualifying crime.

So let's say cops in Silver Spring pull over a 20 year old for rolling through a red light, and that 20 year old is on probation for armed robbery. There is a good chance the police may ask to search his car.

If they want to search, they have to ask, because it's not related to the traffic infraction.  But it's also not random. In this example, the request to search is prompted by the driver's criminal history.  Which police have almost as soon as they pull you over.

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Most of those disqualifiers seem like they deliberately target POC to make it difficult or impossible for them to have a gun. Doesn’t that seem a tad…..oh, I dunno…….RACIST, to you?

Because it screams it to me. [/quote]

Your comment seems racist to me.

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