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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Be glad the cutoff is 9/1.

In New York State, it’s 12/31.   And people still redshirt summer boys at least, so the gap is huge.  [/quote]

That’s too much. Public schools really need to mandate it. Anything that is 6months from the cutoff should require a medical/learning condition of some sort that they are receiving services for. [/quote]

Nonsense. You parent your kids, let other people parent theirs. [/quote]

The point is that it affects others. It affects the class dynamic. It changes the age and size range etc in the class.[/quote]

This. I don't understand the attitude that redshirting is a purely individual choice. Obviously there's a social/cooperative dynamic or there wouldn't be age cut offs at all. They'd just tell parents to send kids when they felt like it.

I don't have any issues with redshirting when appropriate but I don't think it should just be a unilateral parent choice unless you're talking about kids right near the cut off where it's not really going to make a difference for the cohort (a redshirted August birthday is always either going to be the oldest or youngest, but only by a bit so I don't care what parents choose in those cases).[/quote]

Make up your minds. Does it hurt others or only hold your own kid back if you redshirt? So many people post about what a tragedy it is to redshirt your kid and the message it sends to them and how their young for grade kid is running circles around everyone. So what's the problem? I think it's pretty clear people use the faux concern as a cover because they are insecure about their own kids.[/quote]

You are dragging in every other conversation about redshirting and (angrily, and without reason) lumping them all together. I can tell you are just chomping at the bit to yell at "anti-redshirters" and you don't actually read the posts because your arguments make no sense in the context of this thread.

OP isn't making an argument against all redshirting, she's looking for a more formalized process. Like giving parents discretion within an age window but requiring a more formal process (an evaluation, a diagnosis, some kind of application for approval) outside that window. This is not an "anti-redshirt" position. It's a "pro-clarity" position. It would still enable people to redshirt and it would have zero impact on the vast majority of redshirting decisions, which involve kids within a couple months of the cut off. But it would give schools a bit more control over age cohorts and therefore give parents a bit more confidence that their kid is in the right cohort with kids who are at a similar maturity level.

There are school districts (like DCPS, for instance) where they actually require some kind of documentation/permissions process for ANY redshirting decision, so OP is not even suggesting a particularly restrictive policy. Just more restrictive than "do whatever you want."[/quote]

DP. The PPs post made perfect sense, but you just don’t like the fact that she pointed out the significant inconsistency in positions that anti-redshirters take on DCUM. OPs question needs to be considered in a framework: is it an advantage or not? Is there actual harm or not? The answer to how to manage it depends on that analysis. No school districts have followed NYCs lead, so they do not seem to believe there is an issue. The PP pointed out correctly that there is extreme inconsistency in the anti-redshirt position. That’s reasonable, but you just don’t like it.

Speaking of positions, your position and OPs is apparently that you want redshirting to be limited to those families who have the ability and the education to see potential issues and pay for private assessments. You want it to be something primarily available to the children of the wealthy and educated, who have good insurance and a lot of time to start this process.

I mean, I guess that’s a position you can take.  It wouldn’t be mine, but you are free to advocate to practically limit the ability to redshirt to the wealthiest and most privileged kids. [/quote]

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