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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I've had insurance my entire life. My parents had a great plan and then I do as well (Kaiser Permanente). I can't say that I can complain about anything. I get new doctor's appts within the month, but I'm also young (40s) and haven't had any major issues other than birth. My dad recently needed brain surgery and he was able to go to one of the top surgeons in America for this type of tumor. He easily got an appt and insurance paid most of it.

I really don't think ours is as broken as the news makes it seem. Except for ERs. ERs truly are some kind of sh!tshow. But that's because people clog them up with tons of unneeded stuff. They should be pushing people to urgent cares or primary care doctors, but they can't. Oh and therapy is a sh!tshow too. But I think if therapy was easy to access, nearly every American would be going weekly. There is some cost/benefit analysis there. Kaiser definitely wouldn't pay.

A lot of my friends have lived abroad and were not happy with the medical care and did indicate that they preferred ours. In Ontario my friend got supplemental private insurance because her company said she'd need it. She wasn't happy with them trying to push a vaginal birth on her when she'd had back surgery and a prior c section. Friends currently living in England also have private insurance. [/quote]
The US system is "broken" in that a person can go bankrupt due to medical debt.    No other civilized country has this problem.

The best type of system is both public and private, where you can get private insurance if you want to.  Most civilized countries have this option. Also, their insurance is no where near as expensive as ours, and neither are the costs for the medical care even if you pay out pocket.[/quote]

Donyou know why in other countries people don’t go bankrupt over the medical cost? Because they dead. At least in America we have a choice to go bankrupt  or be dead. Over there you don’t have this choice. [/quote]

That's just a ridiculous response. You still get care in other developed countries. It isn't a choice of dead or bankrupt. [/quote]

Once again, mortality data does not back this up.[/quote]
The US mortality rate is lower than other developed countries with universal healthcare, like Canada 
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You might want to do, I don't know- any quick search before spouting off something you may want to be true:

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-life-expectancy-compare-countries/#Life%20expectancy%20at%20birth,%20in%20years,%201980-2021[/quote]

And several more but I particularly like the first because it also breaks out healthcare cost per person:

https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2023/the-missing-americans-unprecedented-us-mortality-far-exceeds-other-wealthy-nations/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK571929/
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/press-release/compared-to-peer-countries-the-u-s-had-the-highest-rate-of-mortality-among-people-under-age-65-and-potential-years-of-life-lost-in-2020-due-to-the-pandemic/

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