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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]This is good. [/b]

[i]The statue, unveiled in 1914, features a bronze woman, crowned with olive leaves, standing on a 32-foot pedestal, and was designed to represent the American South. According to Arlington, the woman holds a laurel wreath, a plow stock and a pruning hook, with a Biblical inscription at her feet that says: “They have beat their swords into plough-shares and their spears into pruning hooks.”[/i]

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Is it really, though. Is the answer to just abolish anything that brings up that period in our history? You can’t simply remove and destroy. Well, I guess you can as evidenced here but it’s not the way. Learning from history, but still accepting this was a period in our county’s history, makes more sense. It’s like those people running around trying to shut down freedom of speech. Isn’t the the answer to have better speech- than to shut the other side down? [/quote]

It would be easier for me to agree with you — if, over the last 150 years or so, this country— as a whole — grappled honestly with the painfully ignoble aspects of our country’s history, and made sure that everyone understood our history, resolved to grow beyond it.  Instead, we got Jim Crow laws, legal racial segregation, a few years of complicated and modest progress, and, now, MAGA influencing everything from our “justice” system to books no longer available in school libraries.  
So, I’d agree with you that there are better ways to handle this country’s history, but what many people have learned from this period in history is that white supremacy has its benefits.  We had a century and a half to do better.  Many, including those who erected such statues and those who venerate them, have deliberately chosen not to.  [/quote]

You’re bringing to light “some people” but certainly not all. I am average American citizen with roots in both the north and south (and by south I mean plantation owners). I teach my children history is to be learned from and not repeated. We “do better” than our ancestors and that’s a fact. I will agree with you there are area lot of missteps throughout history. You can’t “make” everyone understand or agree with history and the right/wrong of it. The statutes, the renaming of bases (Ft Bragg to Ft Liberty) would make sense to me if it really was a decision made as a country or we came together to discuss and learn/grow. [b]But what is being learned by our children’s generation by doing this?[/b] And what are we learning as a country? Division.  Just another, new, version of division and conflict. [/quote]

That we will no longer put up statues honoring people who went to war on the side of a legal system that defined certain people as property rather than people.[/quote]

thats the problem, your southern ancestors shouldn't feel equally American to the northern ones. They were traitors who were vanquished and conquered and your plantation dwelling ancestors are the same as goering/himmler- something to mention as a strange tidbit of which you are vaguely ashamed. you should feel that - the southerners should feel like their ancestors were a conquered people who are looked down upon and shameful to the vast majority of Americans. There should be no southern pride. southern pride is a betrayal of the abolitionist cause and actual Great Americans like Frederick Douglas.  Im nt saying that ppl should feel personal shame but they should certainly feel like the Confederates are not a part of the History of this great nation called the  United States. Like an immigrant feels, confederate ancestors arent a part of this nation, they are a separate people, a people who were put dow by the heroes of these United States, literally burned down  by General Sherman. [/quote]

No.  No no no.

I hope you're trolling but your nonsense is offensive as well as wrong.  No.[/quote]

DP. Which part was wrong? [/quote]

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