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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m OP. If someone isn’t willing to spend a few hours with family, why should I even get a regular gift? That seems crazy to me.

And yes, [b]my point in family experiences is that it’s one time of the year we can all make time together. It’s something we can count on.[/b]

Time together feels like the basis of most relationships. They live within an hour of us. What should I do, not talk to them all year, ask for a list and ship them gifts to show I “care”. That’s silly. [/quote]

How is it something you can count on, if you're giving them an "out" and you're totally fine with them not participating?

Your rationale does not make sense. It feels like you are trying to hold physical gifts hostage to coerce their attendance at your "experience". But it won't work, because they don't seem to want your "experience" or more toys either.

Here's a crazy idea-- why not try to involve them in planning something that actually works well for small children and isn't more pressure and stress at an already-difficult time of year?[/quote]

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