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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It gives me 5% more faith in humanity's future, that the thread here (mostly) sees through the fake romance.

I watched the movie with my DD and had to explain to her afterwards that this was everything Love is [i]not[/i].[/quote]

I see you don’t have a nuanced enough view to grasp that of course love that grows from the ravages of war, hatred, starvation and toxicity would be complex and fragile and mangled. That was rather THE POINT.[/quote]
DP. You are completely brainwashed by narcissism if that's how you read their relationship.

And when I think of "love that grows from the ravages of war, hatred, starvation and toxicity would be complex and fragile and mangled" I think of Katniss and Peeta, who are toxic, damaged, and sincere about doing their best for each other.

It's scary that you projected this onto Snow, a rich guy from a privileged family who manipulates and controls people while experiencing biological/chemical attraction.[/quote]

If you don’t get the point that [b]the way he was raised made him poisonous[/b], then you’re missing everything. Some of you haven’t read the book, and it shows. [/quote]

Yes, the movie didn't make that sufficiently clear. Other than a nod to the trauma and some toxicity with the grandmother, there wasn't much to it. The emphasis on the affectionate relationship with his cousin was emphasized more. And he seemed moved by Lucy Gray's kindness at several points, so the "poisonous" character also didn't really come through until he became more calculating at the end.[/quote]

He was moved by all sorts of good things in the book. Near the end it says he loved Lucy Gray.

It’s about time what people value.

He was moved by:
Love
Sweet kids
Safety
Sharing
Friendship
Family
Loyalty
Forgiveness
Beautiful nature

He correctly hated: execution, hunger games, war, the creepy science lab, poverty, dr Gaul

But above all of it he values Control. Love made him too weak, lost his mind. Nothing else was a trade off worth losing control. [/quote]

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