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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Tell me on what sane planet a sport like this is good for kids:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/S-YwoVk-46Q?si=Fi-mWe_5ob8fV7ze[/youtube]

You can argue about team sport involvement and physical activity all you want, but the above is what you don’t see that occurs constantly during practices all the time even to this day.  The clip at 1:15 n the video is horrifying.

Plenty of other sports like swimming, track, golf, baseball, basketball, tennis, etc. exist.[/quote]

Those are horrible.

But I've been involved in 3 youth football programs, and attended literally thousands of practices in the area.  I've never seen that done at a local practice.

I have seen one coach dismissed for teaching bad form.  He was told his kid could stay but he could not.  Unsurprisingly, he did not let his kid continue.[/quote]

Oh plesse, they have repeated collisions at almost every practice.  Drills like these are very common:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/L32tmQ4hpdE?si=1FsBVBi_F3XcRB8m[/youtube]

Every single one of those collisions is like taking a jab punch or worse to the head.  Over the course of playing multiple seasons kids will be exposed to hundreds and thousands of those kinds of hits that rattle the brain every time.  There is no amount of 'proper form' that can protect against it, because even using proper form and the most advanced paddding/helmets possible still rattles the brain.  It's basic physics. Then only way to remove the risk is to get rid of tackling and hit blocking altogether.  But then you don't have football except for flag.

[b]High school kids are getting Mohammed Ali brains by the time they graduate[/b]. [/quote]

[b]I tell people all the time.  If you're in a discussion, and you think you are right, be sure to avoid hyperbole.  It makes it too easy to dismiss you.[/b]

And FYI:  my son's football team was incredibly successful (#1 seed, league champs), practiced 4 days a week (one was film study) and they were no-contact/no hitting from October on.

There was a lot of hitting in August.  But once they got their legs back, it was no hitting in practice.  To avoid injury.

There are good programs; there are bad programs.  Parents need to do the leg work to find the right ones[/quote]

Sure Tom, whatever helps you sleep at night while knowingly signing up your kids for brain damaging activities.  [/quote]

I honestly don't know who Tom is.

But I do wonder what you get out of these posts?  Every few months you pop back on here to post something about the dangers of tackle football.

There's never really a valid question or a conversation?  Why do you do it?  Is that you like the validation from the echo chamber?  Or it makes you feel superior to the parents that do allow it?

And don't say "this is a discussion board; its for discussion" bc whenever somebody does try to honestly engage, its met with replies like "at least I dont let my kid's brains turn into mush"

Seriously, what satisfaction do you get from starting these threads?[/quote]

Except you don't try to seriously engage. Up post you tried to dismiss all CTE studies as biased, using the same kinda language the NFL and football lobby tries to use. You have yet to respond to all of the holes poked in that argument, and then use crappy, hand waivy arguments about tackling properly, limiting the amount of tackles, etc. while ignorning basic physics and the fact that brain jarring hits are an inherent part of the game.  Your kids are basically getting punched in the head repeatedly.  Let's start there. Can you even admit, using basic physics, that almost every practice drill and play on a game your kids are getting exposed to a similar force as a punch to the head?

You know how many times Muhammad Ali was knocked out in his pro career? Only once.  Yet look at how he turned out.  You don't need to be repeatedly knocked out cold or have your bell rung on a consistent basis to destroy your brains into mashed potatoes. [/quote]

But why?  People have decided that for their family, the benefits outweigh the risk.  Physical, contact sports create a type of strength and resiliency that other sports cannot.  I know the risks, but I've chosen to allow it for my son.  Everyone that has allowed their child to play football or hockey or soccer or lacross or wrestling is WELL AWARE of the risks.  So what are you trying to accomplish with these posts?

And that wasn't me poking holes in the study on CTE.  My biggest objection to those studies is that they narrowly focus on football.  The more we expand the scope of the studies we find that many other sports have a similar risk profile, most notably girl's soccer.

Also, Ali used a technique called rope-a-dope, where he would allow his opponent to land as many punches as people in order to tire out his opponent.  The fact that he was only knocked out one time is irrelevant.  He took shots intentionally as a defensive strategy.   It's apples to oranges
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