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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s a free country. If black people feel Trump will do better for them then they can vote accordingly.[/quote]

I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a Republican in the White House would be better for black folks in several areas. One, the current USAO in DC is Matthew Graves, a Biden appointee that declines to prosecute 67 percent of all arrests here. As a result, crime is once again an epidemic in DC - every corner of it. And the vast, vast majority of victims of violent crime in DC are black people. I don't know if people here actually talk to black people, but they went action - more police, more prosecutions, even the National Guard - to deal with crime. And that will never happen as long as Biden is president.

The border is another issue. Just because everyone is a shade of brown doesn't mean blacks naturally feel an affinity for Venezuelans who don't speak a word of English and whose children are overwhelming school districts around the country. Plus the additional pressure on housing and social services. Very often the feeling in the black community is that all those millions of illegal migrants are simply cutting to the front of the line.

Biden does not engender much loyalty in the black community. It's not like Obama. It's not even like the Clintons. I would not be surprised if 25 percent of blacks vote Republican. And I suspect turnout will be low. Add that to all the young people upset about Israel and I think Biden is going to have a lot of difficulty getting to a 2nd term. [b]He's a bad candidate for this moment in time.[/b][/quote]

And Trump is a good one? [/quote]

Of course not. Almost no one in this country wants to see a redux of Trump vs Biden. However, Biden is weak with his base. He needs college educated women, minorities, and young people to win the electoral college. His support among younger voters has been slipping rapidly after events in Israel. Many black folks lack any enthusiasm for Biden. And I don't think college educated women who are upset by Roes is enough to win this election.

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It’s not just “college educated women” who are “upset” by “Roes.” It’s a plurality of the country who don’t like the fascism of the GOP; abortion is just the first place the GOP thought they were safe and where they really let themselves loose with their authoritarianism.

Black people know that it’s the GOP who continually chisels their votes away; if so many of them were going to magically vote for fascism, they’d probably stop carving up the Black vote.

We’re in the weird ebb in a world where the media does the GOP’s work for them. Once Trump starts talking and reminds people of how awful those four years were, plus how bad his dementia* has gotten since he’s been gone, people are going to flock to Biden. Project 2025 is real. Regressives over-reaching at the state level is real. Women without full citizenship is real.

The GOP offers nothing but hate, pure id. [/quote]

I actually suspect this exact type of messaging, "the GOP offers nothing but hate," is a huge part of voter alienation. It's shorthand for saying, "if you have concerns about the border, the economy, crime, or education, you must be a racist."  It's very dismissive and also forgets the fact that POC live in the same world as everyone else and have the same concerns.  [/quote]
I’m the pp you’re replying to and nice try but what does the GOP offer on those issues, other than hate?

The border: they refuse to legislate on it. They do make fun of immigrants, both legal and not, and traffick asylum seekers around the country in an attempt to punish blue cities.

The economy: other than tax cuts for the uber wealthy and cutting services for the rest of us, what do they offer?

Crime: more vilification - ironically for this thread, usually of Black people, less so of other minorities. But what do they offer? I guess more money for privatized prisons and harsher sentences for things like drugs. But no actual policies to help with crime. Oh I guess your party’s desire to make abortion illegal will create more crime in 18 years, so I guess your party offers more crime.

Education: vouchers and book bans, I guess?

The GOP offers nothing but hatred. If you actually want to talk policy instead of idiotic right wing slogans and chewy mouth talk nonsense, let’s do it. Because I don’t see the GOP offering anything for anyone but rich old angry White men. And that’s not racism, that’s reality. [/quote]

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