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There are plenty of seats available for "qualified students"---just look outside the T20 schools.  The differences between a T20 and a T60 school are minimal.  Plenty of really really really smart kids at schools ranked 30-60.  Once you realize that, not much needs to change.  Just you broadening your definition of acceptable schools. 
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I strongly believe that market reform will happen when people who CAN affort 85K+ per year decide that that price tag is not actually worth it. Boston University vs University of Maryland - one might argue that it isn't worth 200K more to go to BU. As upper middle class truly start to embrace research that getting a degree from good public is just as predictive of good outcomes, the market will boost up the publics and cause a strain on the privates. [/quote]

One of the ways good publics finance themselves is out of state students that they charge comparable tuition rates to top privates.

In California, many students with very strong GPAs/ test scores/ ECs cannot get into the UCs. I think they capped OOS students but it is still highly competitive to gain admission Even here in Maryland, I have heard many UM alumni say their own children did not get in. [/quote]

It is really competitive to get in a UC school AND many of the CSU schools, which used to be easy to get into. A lot of kids go to CC and transfer in, in both systems.

My husband works for a CSU. They are planning for a drop in enrollment in the coming years and may be consolidating admin jobs, etc. I think the competition level will stay the same. During the 2008 recession era, they admitted more out of state and international students due to budget cuts.[/quote]

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