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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I was an atheist who lost faith, and then found faith, after many years. I think faith or lack of faith can ebb and flow. [/quote] I think so, too. [/quote] I disagree. [b]Once you look objectively and see there is no evidence for god (by the definitions of god most used) there really is no ebb or flow.[/b] It's actually wonderful, liberating, and permanent - at least until some evidence arises.[/quote] There was definitely ebb and flow in my case too, so that makes three of us on this thread.[/quote] What evidence did you find that made you “ebb and flow” back to faith? Forgive my presumption, but I assume you mean you fought between your acknowledgment that there is insufficient evidence and some other emotion? Is that accurate? [/quote] Science requires proof, religious belief requires faith. Scientists don't try to prove or disprove God's existence because they know there isn't an experiment that can ever detect God. Evidence does not reduce to scientific evidence alone. Evidence is any kind of fact, proof or argumentation that supports an idea. There are many theological evidences and logical proofs. Whether or not you find them convincing is a different matter.[/quote] That doesn’t answer the question of what evidence?[/quote] I know a Christian who says the order of the universe points to a creator. Order doesn’t occur randomly. God is eternal and always been here, and He created the universe. He believes that a higher power had to set off events to cause the big bang. He believes that because all the major world religions think Jesus was a holy man or prophet, Jesus was really the holy man that He says He was. He believes that the Bible is very historically accurate and he’s not wrong about that. The Bible is very historically accurate regarding geography, etc. There are finds of buildings or pottery or other evidence that proves something from the Bible quite often. When someone questions him, he asks them to prove if the reality their eyes are seeing is accurate. People usually abruptly stop challenging him then. Nobody can prove or disprove God, but everyone who believes in God has their own evidence or reasons. I do find that the world around me in nature is amazingly ordered after he pointed that out. I don’t think that occurs randomly and on it’s own, either. [/quote] Thanks for your preaching, but it is off topic. The PP was asked what evidence caused them to ebb and flow. Please don't respond for them and try and respect the topic.[/quote] The topic is how a person became an atheist or lost their faith- not how all religion is horrible and there isn’t any evidence for God. [/quote]
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