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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Any big state university. Michigan, UCLA, UNC etc. Yes a portion of the kids are high achievers but there is a portion who are not, too (or who weren’t as well prepared, etc). Vs any college like Wash U, Georgetown, etc will be virtually all high achievers. [/quote]
I taught at UCLA and it was a super competitive environment.  It was very hard to get into classes because everything was oversubscribed.  And once you were in a class it was all about grades since the classes were huge and there was so few chances to interact with faculty.  On top of that, because it's in LA, lots of kids go home for weekends or work off campus, so there was a weak social life outside of Greek life.  The school felt like a big, unfriendly cattle call on a pretty campus with great weather.  I would never send my kid there.[/quote]

There you go. From the horses's mouth. The PP saying UCLA was full of slackers a) never attended b) didn't have a kid who attended and c) based their assessment of 10's of thousands of students on 2 acquaintances.

That is the kind of nonsense that ruins threads on DCUM. [/quote]

I’m the original poster who said it. Spouse and I are from LA and still have lots of family and friends there. My husband went to ucla, niece just graduated and nephew is a sophmore, and many close friends’ kids currently attend. So yes I have close ties and they have all said this. My niece and nephew found their high school more challenging than college their first couple of years, and never found it unmanageable. Niece was history/film studies major and nephew is something related to comp sci.

I hear the exact same thing about UVA. Yes there are high achievers, but plenty of laid back kids and the classes aren’t very challenging (I just heard this from a neighbor whose junior is a government major or whatever uva calls poli sci).

I stand by that there will always be a range of abilities at any state university - ucla to michigan to umd. So I think they are excellent colleges to consider for students who want a more balanced life. [/quote]

Still all hearsay. You didn't attend. You have zero first hand knowledge. [/quote]

as is the professor’s information, since nor did they attend - they relayed second hand info from their students and/or their perceptions of it. [/quote]

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