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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Aversive methods work, and you shouldn't confuse them with inflicting pain. I know this is VERY HARD for most posters to understand.

I use a prong collar on my dog. I've tried e-collars as well, but his huge neck ruff defeats the circuitry. He's a very active sled dog, and when he pulls, he can pull your arm off.

But he's not stupid. When he sees someone reaching for his regular collar, he will pull to his heart's content, and trigger medical bills for the human. When he sees someone reaching for the prongs, he's going to measure his lunges and stride accurately so as never to cause himself pain. The prongs are blunt, his ruff is incredibly thick, so he still pulls! But not to the point of the human needing physical therapy for months.

There will always be circumstances where prong and other methods are necessary. I say this as someone who has fostered and trained rescued dogs for years and years. I've never had to use aversive methods on ANY OF THEM. But my own dog was born with physical and mental characteristics that defeat standard methods.

Regarding "professional" trainers: most trainers in my area are froufrou people who can't handle anything more than moderate issues. Their clients are usually wealthy families who can't be bothered to train for bathroom and bite inhibition - the basics of puppy education!  But show them a really difficult dog (my dog isn't the only one I know who has a real problem), and they can't deal. The tiny minority of trainers who aren't froufrou have connections to police dog training and it's e-collar all the way. Which doesn't work on my dog, as described above.

[b]So you can sit back down, OP. You know nothing.[/b]

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op here.  I have every right to express my opinion.  Again if you were so confident than you wouldn't tell me to shut up.  Which I am never going to do.  These methods are never necessary.  NEVER[/quote]

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